[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 8
Shane Vickers
senavick2 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 3 06:22:44 AEST 2019
ESC Band for Auckland ( 498.9875) so far, one of the CBD sites on UHF I
found no link to VHF when they were active.
Shane..
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:39 PM Radio Scanner <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Scan ESB (141-144Mhz) and ESC (494-502Mhz) and you'll soon find them.
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> On 2/10/2019 6:30 p.m., Leith Cullen wrote:
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> I just need the control channel then I can get the others.
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>> There will be a multitude of frequencies. Each time they talk they will
>> be on another frequency. It is all determined by the trunk controller.
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>> What frequency are thew OSU on?
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>> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:49:25 +1300
>> From: Nino White <nbhunga at gmail.com<mailto: <nbhunga at gmail.com>
>> nbhunga at gmail.com>>
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>> 23073 for Channel 2
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>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM gklm < <gklm at slingshot.co.nz>
>> gklm at slingshot.co.nz<mailto: <gklm at slingshot.co.nz>gklm at slingshot.co.nz>>
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>> > One talkgroup: 23072.
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto:
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>> Behalf Of *Scan
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>> > *Subject:* Re: [TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1
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>> > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster < <blakjak at gmail.com>
>> blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>blakjak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's
>> >> not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH < <scanchch at gmail.com>
>> scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>scanchch at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for
>> >>> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of
>> >>> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
>> correct
>> >>> me if I?m wrong
>> >>>
>> >>> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>> >>> trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>> >>> topography of the South Island or parts of central north are
>> conducive to
>> >>> that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer
>> number of
>> >>> sites it would be extremely expensive.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>
>> senavick2 at gmail.com<mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they
>> not?
>> >>>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland system
>> >>>> grows... fingers crossed
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <leithacullen at gmail.com
>> <mailto: <leithacullen at gmail.com>leithacullen at gmail.com>>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so
>> >>>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
>> Police
>> >>>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all
>> of our
>> >>>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 73
>> >>>>> ZL1LAC
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:00 PM < <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz>
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>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>> >>>>>> From: Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com
>> <mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>> >>>>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
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>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
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>> >>>>>> Morning all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow the
>> >>>>>> Aussie's
>> >>>>>> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system
>> where
>> >>>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are big
>> >>>>>> too
>> >>>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control
>> >>>>>> channel.
>> >>>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others sharing
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
>> traffic
>> >>>>>> issues on their
>> >>>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned
>> with
>> >>>>>> encrypted traffic
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and
>> >>>>>> ambos on
>> >>>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning
>> coffee
>> >>>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Shane.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>> >>>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com<mailto:
>> <radio.restorations at gmail.com>radio.restorations at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was
>> pages
>> >>>>>> of blah
>> >>>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
>> >>>>>> implemented.
>> >>>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>> developed
>> >>>>>> an
>> >>>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
>> >>>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to operate
>> on
>> >>>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't need to
>> be
>> >>>>>> so
>> >>>>>> > complicated.
>> >>>>>> >
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>> >>>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
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>> Whats the freq for Auckland OSU?
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>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto:
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>> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:25:22 +1300
>> > From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>
>> blakjak at gmail.com>>
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>> > To the best of my knowledge, Wellington Fire is entirely unencrypted and
>> > analogue at present.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Gary Stone < <kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz>
>> kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz<mailto: <kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz>kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz>>
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>> > > quick question
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>> > > Is Wellington's fire that is on the ESX band encrypted?
>> > >
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>> > From: Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>
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>> > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster < <blakjak at gmail.com>
>> blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>blakjak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's
>> > not
>> > > encrypted like the Police channels however.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH < <scanchch at gmail.com>
>> scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>scanchch at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for
>> > >> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>> > >>
>> > >> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of
>> > >> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
>> > correct
>> > >> me if I?m wrong
>> > >>
>> > >> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>> > trunked
>> > >> network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>> topography
>> > of
>> > >> the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to that. The
>> > cost
>> > >> to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of sites it
>> > would
>> > >> be extremely expensive.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com
>> <mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they
>> not?
>> > >>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland system
>> > >>> grows... fingers crossed
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <leithacullen at gmail.com
>> <mailto: <leithacullen at gmail.com>leithacullen at gmail.com>>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so
>> > >>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
>> > Police
>> > >>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all
>> of
>> > our
>> > >>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 73
>> > >>>> ZL1LAC
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:00 PM <
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>> > >>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>> > >>>>> From: Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com
>> <mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>> > >>>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
>> thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
>> > >>>>> Message-ID:
>> > >>>>> <CADUHeyxV6arF1Uzb3_WS8gfsHPaPP-BgMh2nJg8mThQZR766=w at mail.
>> > >>>>> gmail.com< <http://gmail.com>http://gmail.com>>
>> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Morning all,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow the
>> > >>>>> Aussie's
>> > >>>>> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system
>> > where
>> > >>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are
>> big
>> > too
>> > >>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control
>> > >>>>> channel.
>> > >>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
>> sharing
>> > the
>> > >>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
>> > traffic
>> > >>>>> issues on their
>> > >>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned
>> > with
>> > >>>>> encrypted traffic
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and
>> > ambos
>> > >>>>> on
>> > >>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning
>> > coffee
>> > >>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Shane.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>> > >>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com<mailto:
>> <radio.restorations at gmail.com>radio.restorations at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was
>> pages
>> > >>>>> of blah
>> > >>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
>> > >>>>> implemented.
>> > >>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>> developed
>> > an
>> > >>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
>> > >>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>> operate on
>> > >>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't need
>> to be
>> > >>>>> so
>> > >>>>> > complicated.
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>> > >>>>> From: Bob < <bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz>
>> bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz<mailto: <bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz>
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>> > >>>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
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>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
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>> > >>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
>> > >>>>> www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz< <http://www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz>
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>> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:51:02 +1300
>> > From: "gklm" <gklm at slingshot.co.nz<mailto: <gklm at slingshot.co.nz>
>> gklm at slingshot.co.nz>>
>> > To: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto:
>> <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>]On
>> Behalf Of
>> > Scan CHCH
>> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 11:27
>> > To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
>> thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
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>> >
>> >
>> > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster < <blakjak at gmail.com>
>> blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>blakjak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network.
>> It's
>> > not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH < <scanchch at gmail.com>
>> scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>scanchch at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF
>> for
>> > portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>> >
>> >
>> > Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks
>> of
>> > radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
>> correct
>> > me if I?m wrong
>> >
>> > As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>> > trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>> > topography of the South Island or parts of central north are conducive
>> to
>> > that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number
>> of
>> > sites it would be extremely expensive.
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <
>> <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com<mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>
>> senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are
>> they
>> > not?
>> > Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland
>> > system grows... fingers crossed
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <
>> > leithacullen at gmail.com<mailto: <leithacullen at gmail.com>
>> leithacullen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like
>> these,
>> > so would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
>> Police
>> > already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all of our
>> > services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>> >
>> >
>> > 73
>> > ZL1LAC
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>> > From: Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>
>> senavick2 at gmail.com<mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
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>> > Morning all,
>> >
>> > A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would
>> follow
>> > the Aussie's
>> > with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25
>> > system where
>> > Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they
>> > are big too
>> > compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per
>> > control channel.
>> > All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
>> > sharing the
>> > network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter
>> re
>> > traffic
>> > issues on their
>> > motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally
>> > aligned with
>> > encrypted traffic
>> >
>> > Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted
>> > and ambos on
>> > their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the
>> > morning coffee
>> > before the family woke and the day started...
>> >
>> > Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>> >
>> > Shane.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>> > radio.restorations at gmail.com<mailto:
>> <radio.restorations at gmail.com>radio.restorations at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw
>> was
>> > pages of blah
>> > > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would
>> be
>> > implemented.
>> > > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>> > developed an
>> > > impression, and commented accordingly.
>> > > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>> > operate on
>> > > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't
>> > need to be so
>> > > complicated.
>> > >
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