[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 8

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Scan ESB (141-144Mhz) and ESC (494-502Mhz) and you'll soon find them.

On 2/10/2019 6:30 p.m., Leith Cullen wrote:
> I just need the control channel then I can get the others.
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>     From: Brendan Sheehy <Shiters_r_us at hotmail.com
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>     There will be a multitude of frequencies. Each time they talk they
>     will be on another frequency. It is all determined by the trunk
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>     What frequency are thew OSU on?
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:49:25 +1300
>     From: Nino White <nbhunga at gmail.com
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>     23073 for Channel 2
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>     On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM gklm <gklm at slingshot.co.nz
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>     > One talkgroup: 23072.
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>     > *Subject:* Re: [TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1
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>     > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>     >
>     > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:blakjak at gmail.com><mailto:blakjak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:blakjak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
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>     >> Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25
>     network.  It's
>     >> not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:scanchch at gmail.com><mailto:scanchch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:scanchch at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and
>     UHF for
>     >>> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>     >>>
>     >>> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the
>     looks of
>     >>> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark
>     can correct
>     >>> me if I?m wrong
>     >>>
>     >>> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>     >>> trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t
>     think the
>     >>> topography of the South Island or parts of central north are
>     conducive to
>     >>> that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the
>     sheer number of
>     >>> sites it would be extremely expensive.
>     >>>
>     >>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers
>     <senavick2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com><mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com>>>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are
>     they not?
>     >>>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland
>     system
>     >>>> grows... fingers crossed
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen
>     <leithacullen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com><mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com>>>
>     >>>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like
>     these, so
>     >>>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this
>     system?  Police
>     >>>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to
>     get all of our
>     >>>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new
>     system?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> 73
>     >>>>> ZL1LAC
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>     >>>>>> Message: 1
>     >>>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>     >>>>>> From: Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com
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>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Morning all,
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would
>     follow the
>     >>>>>> Aussie's
>     >>>>>> with their state wide system..  They appear to have a P25
>     system where
>     >>>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they
>     are big
>     >>>>>> too
>     >>>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control
>     >>>>>> channel.
>     >>>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
>     sharing
>     >>>>>> the
>     >>>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter
>     re traffic
>     >>>>>> issues on their
>     >>>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally
>     aligned with
>     >>>>>> encrypted traffic
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police
>     encrypted and
>     >>>>>> ambos on
>     >>>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the
>     morning coffee
>     >>>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Shane.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>     >>>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com
>     <mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com><mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com
>     <mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw
>     was pages
>     >>>>>> of blah
>     >>>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
>     >>>>>> implemented.
>     >>>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>     developed
>     >>>>>> an
>     >>>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
>     >>>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>     operate on
>     >>>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't
>     need to be
>     >>>>>> so
>     >>>>>> > complicated.
>     >>>>>> >
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>     >>>>>> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:51:34 +1300
>     >>>>>> From: Bob <bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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>     >>>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
>     >>>>>> www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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>     From: Leith Cullen <leithacullen at gmail.com
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>     Whats the freq for Auckland OSU?
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>     >    1. Re: TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1 (Mark Foster)
>     >    2. Re: TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1 (Scan CHCH)
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>     > Message: 1
>     > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:25:22 +1300
>     > From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com
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>     > To the best of my knowledge, Wellington Fire is entirely
>     unencrypted and
>     > analogue at present.
>     >
>     > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Gary Stone <kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz
>     <mailto:kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz><mailto:kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz
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>     >
>     > > quick question
>     > >
>     > > Is Wellington's fire that is on the ESX band encrypted?
>     > >
>     > > Cheers
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>     >
>     > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>     >
>     > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:blakjak at gmail.com><mailto:blakjak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:blakjak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25
>     network.  It's
>     > not
>     > > encrypted like the Police channels however.
>     > >
>     > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:scanchch at gmail.com><mailto:scanchch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:scanchch at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and
>     UHF for
>     > >> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>     > >>
>     > >> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the
>     looks of
>     > >> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But
>     Mark can
>     > correct
>     > >> me if I?m wrong
>     > >>
>     > >> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>     > trunked
>     > >> network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>     topography
>     > of
>     > >> the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to
>     that. The
>     > cost
>     > >> to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of
>     sites it
>     > would
>     > >> be extremely expensive.
>     > >>
>     > >> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers
>     <senavick2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com><mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com>>>
>     > wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system
>     are they not?
>     > >>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>     > >>>
>     > >>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the
>     Auckland system
>     > >>> grows... fingers crossed
>     > >>>
>     > >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen
>     <leithacullen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com><mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com>>>
>     > >>> wrote:
>     > >>>
>     > >>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like
>     these, so
>     > >>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this
>     system?
>     > Police
>     > >>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to
>     get all of
>     > our
>     > >>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new
>     system?
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> 73
>     > >>>> ZL1LAC
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:00 PM
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>     > >>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>     > >>>>> From: Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com
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>     > >>>>> Morning all,
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would
>     follow the
>     > >>>>> Aussie's
>     > >>>>> with their state wide system..  They appear to have a P25
>     system
>     > where
>     > >>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system,
>     they are big
>     > too
>     > >>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per
>     control
>     > >>>>> channel.
>     > >>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the
>     others sharing
>     > the
>     > >>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
>     > traffic
>     > >>>>> issues on their
>     > >>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally
>     aligned
>     > with
>     > >>>>> encrypted traffic
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police
>     encrypted and
>     > ambos
>     > >>>>> on
>     > >>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the
>     morning
>     > coffee
>     > >>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> Shane.
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>     > >>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com
>     <mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com><mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com
>     <mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     > >>>>>
>     > >>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw
>     was pages
>     > >>>>> of blah
>     > >>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
>     > >>>>> implemented.
>     > >>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>     developed
>     > an
>     > >>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
>     > >>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>     operate on
>     > >>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't
>     need to be
>     > >>>>> so
>     > >>>>> > complicated.
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>     > >>>>> From: Bob <bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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>     > >>>>> www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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>     >   From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
>     <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz><mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
>     <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>>]On Behalf Of
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>     >
>     >   Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>     >
>     >   On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:blakjak at gmail.com><mailto:blakjak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:blakjak at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25
>     network.  It's
>     > not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:scanchch at gmail.com><mailto:scanchch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:scanchch at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >       The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles
>     and UHF for
>     > portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>     >
>     >
>     >       Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the
>     looks of
>     > radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark
>     can correct
>     > me if I?m wrong
>     >
>     >       As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a
>     National
>     > trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>     > topography of the South Island or parts of central north are
>     conducive to
>     > that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer
>     number of
>     > sites it would be extremely expensive.
>     >
>     >       On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers
>     <senavick2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com><mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:senavick2 at gmail.com>>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >         Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF
>     system are they
>     > not?
>     >         Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the
>     Auckland
>     > system grows... fingers crossed
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <
>     > leithacullen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com><mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com
>     <mailto:leithacullen at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >           From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services
>     like these,
>     > so would it make sense for all our services to jump on this
>     system?  Police
>     > already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get
>     all of our
>     > services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>     >
>     >
>     >           73
>     >           ZL1LAC
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >           On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:00 PM
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>     >             Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>     >             From: Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com
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>     >
>     >             Morning all,
>     >
>     >             A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we
>     would follow
>     > the Aussie's
>     >             with their state wide system..  They appear to have
>     a P25
>     > system where
>     >             Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the
>     system, they
>     > are big too
>     >             compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per
>     > control channel.
>     >             All (most) the police remained encrypted however the
>     others
>     > sharing the
>     >             network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some
>     chatter re
>     > traffic
>     >             issues on their
>     >             motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that
>     generally
>     > aligned with
>     >             encrypted traffic
>     >
>     >             Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police
>     encrypted
>     > and ambos on
>     >             their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the
>     > morning coffee
>     >             before the family woke and the day started...
>     >
>     >             Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>     >
>     >             Shane.
>     >
>     >             On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>     > radio.restorations at gmail.com
>     <mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com><mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com
>     <mailto:radio.restorations at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >             > I did try to read the public documentation but all
>     I saw was
>     > pages of blah
>     >             > blah blah and not much about how exactly the
>     system would be
>     > implemented.
>     >             > Between that and the various comments here in the
>     list I
>     > developed an
>     >             > impression, and commented accordingly.
>     >             > I have long felt that this requirement for
>     everything to
>     > operate on
>     >             > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what
>     doesn't
>     > need to be so
>     >             > complicated.
>     >             >
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>     >             Message: 2
>     >             Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:51:34 +1300
>     >             From: Bob <bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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>     >             I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the
>     Bookman?
>     > www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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