[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 8
Nino White
nbhunga at gmail.com
Thu Oct 3 06:46:46 AEST 2019
they are active on 6 sites. All UHF. Only NZP is using the VHF side of the
network in Auckland
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 9:24 AM Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> ESC Band for Auckland ( 498.9875) so far, one of the CBD sites on UHF I
> found no link to VHF when they were active.
>
> Shane..
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:39 PM Radio Scanner <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scan ESB (141-144Mhz) and ESC (494-502Mhz) and you'll soon find them.
>>
>> On 2/10/2019 6:30 p.m., Leith Cullen wrote:
>>
>> I just need the control channel then I can get the others.
>>
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>>> What frequency are thew OSU on?
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>>> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:49:25 +1300
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>>> 23073 for Channel 2
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM gklm < <gklm at slingshot.co.nz>
>>> gklm at slingshot.co.nz<mailto: <gklm at slingshot.co.nz>gklm at slingshot.co.nz>>
>>> wrote:
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>>> > One talkgroup: 23072.
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>>> > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster < <blakjak at gmail.com>
>>> blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>blakjak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's
>>> >> not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH < <scanchch at gmail.com>
>>> scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>scanchch at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for
>>> >>> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of
>>> >>> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
>>> correct
>>> >>> me if I?m wrong
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>>> >>> trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>>> >>> topography of the South Island or parts of central north are
>>> conducive to
>>> >>> that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer
>>> number of
>>> >>> sites it would be extremely expensive.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>
>>> senavick2 at gmail.com<mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they
>>> not?
>>> >>>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland system
>>> >>>> grows... fingers crossed
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <leithacullen at gmail.com
>>> <mailto: <leithacullen at gmail.com>leithacullen at gmail.com>>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so
>>> >>>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
>>> Police
>>> >>>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all
>>> of our
>>> >>>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 73
>>> >>>>> ZL1LAC
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:00 PM <
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>>> >>>>>> 1. Re: NGCC (Brendan Sheehy) (Shane Vickers)
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>>> >>>>>> Message: 1
>>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>>> >>>>>> From: Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com
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>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
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>>> >>>>>> Morning all,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow the
>>> >>>>>> Aussie's
>>> >>>>>> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system
>>> where
>>> >>>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are
>>> big
>>> >>>>>> too
>>> >>>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control
>>> >>>>>> channel.
>>> >>>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
>>> sharing
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
>>> traffic
>>> >>>>>> issues on their
>>> >>>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned
>>> with
>>> >>>>>> encrypted traffic
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and
>>> >>>>>> ambos on
>>> >>>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning
>>> coffee
>>> >>>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Shane.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>>> >>>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com<mailto:
>>> <radio.restorations at gmail.com>radio.restorations at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was
>>> pages
>>> >>>>>> of blah
>>> >>>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
>>> >>>>>> implemented.
>>> >>>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>>> developed
>>> >>>>>> an
>>> >>>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
>>> >>>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>>> operate on
>>> >>>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't need
>>> to be
>>> >>>>>> so
>>> >>>>>> > complicated.
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>>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:51:34 +1300
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>>> >>>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
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>>> Whats the freq for Auckland OSU?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz
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>>> > 1. Re: TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 1 (Mark Foster)
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>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:25:22 +1300
>>> > From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>
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>>> > To the best of my knowledge, Wellington Fire is entirely unencrypted
>>> and
>>> > analogue at present.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Gary Stone < <kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz>
>>> kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz<mailto: <kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz>kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz>>
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>>> > > quick question
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>>> > > Is Wellington's fire that is on the ESX band encrypted?
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers
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>>> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:26:58 +1300
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>>> > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster < <blakjak at gmail.com>
>>> blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>blakjak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network.
>>> It's
>>> > not
>>> > > encrypted like the Police channels however.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH < <scanchch at gmail.com>
>>> scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>scanchch at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for
>>> > >> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of
>>> > >> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
>>> > correct
>>> > >> me if I?m wrong
>>> > >>
>>> > >> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>>> > trunked
>>> > >> network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>>> topography
>>> > of
>>> > >> the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to that.
>>> The
>>> > cost
>>> > >> to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of sites it
>>> > would
>>> > >> be extremely expensive.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they
>>> not?
>>> > >>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland
>>> system
>>> > >>> grows... fingers crossed
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <
>>> leithacullen at gmail.com<mailto: <leithacullen at gmail.com>
>>> leithacullen at gmail.com>>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so
>>> > >>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
>>> > Police
>>> > >>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all
>>> of
>>> > our
>>> > >>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> 73
>>> > >>>> ZL1LAC
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:00 PM <
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>>> > >>>>> 1. Re: NGCC (Brendan Sheehy) (Shane Vickers)
>>> > >>>>> 2. Re: NGCC (Brendan Sheehy) (Bob)
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>>> > >>>>> Message: 1
>>> > >>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
>>> > >>>>> From: Shane Vickers < <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>>> > >>>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto: <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
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>>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
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>>> > >>>>>
>>> <CADUHeyxV6arF1Uzb3_WS8gfsHPaPP-BgMh2nJg8mThQZR766=w at mail.
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>>> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Morning all,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow
>>> the
>>> > >>>>> Aussie's
>>> > >>>>> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system
>>> > where
>>> > >>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are
>>> big
>>> > too
>>> > >>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control
>>> > >>>>> channel.
>>> > >>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
>>> sharing
>>> > the
>>> > >>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
>>> > traffic
>>> > >>>>> issues on their
>>> > >>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned
>>> > with
>>> > >>>>> encrypted traffic
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and
>>> > ambos
>>> > >>>>> on
>>> > >>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning
>>> > coffee
>>> > >>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Shane.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>>> > >>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com<mailto:
>>> <radio.restorations at gmail.com>radio.restorations at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was
>>> pages
>>> > >>>>> of blah
>>> > >>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
>>> > >>>>> implemented.
>>> > >>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>>> developed
>>> > an
>>> > >>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
>>> > >>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>>> operate on
>>> > >>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't need
>>> to be
>>> > >>>>> so
>>> > >>>>> > complicated.
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>>> > >>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
>>> > >>>>> www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz< <http://www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz>
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>>> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:51:02 +1300
>>> > From: "gklm" <gklm at slingshot.co.nz<mailto: <gklm at slingshot.co.nz>
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>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto:
>>> <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>]On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> > Scan CHCH
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 11:27
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>>> >
>>> > Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster < <blakjak at gmail.com>
>>> blakjak at gmail.com<mailto: <blakjak at gmail.com>blakjak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network.
>>> It's
>>> > not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH < <scanchch at gmail.com>
>>> scanchch at gmail.com<mailto: <scanchch at gmail.com>scanchch at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF
>>> for
>>> > portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks
>>> of
>>> > radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
>>> correct
>>> > me if I?m wrong
>>> >
>>> > As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
>>> > trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
>>> > topography of the South Island or parts of central north are conducive
>>> to
>>> > that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number
>>> of
>>> > sites it would be extremely expensive.
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <
>>> <senavick2 at gmail.com>senavick2 at gmail.com<mailto: <senavick2 at gmail.com>
>>> senavick2 at gmail.com>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are
>>> they
>>> > not?
>>> > Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland
>>> > system grows... fingers crossed
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <
>>> > leithacullen at gmail.com<mailto: <leithacullen at gmail.com>
>>> leithacullen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like
>>> these,
>>> > so would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
>>> Police
>>> > already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all of
>>> our
>>> > services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 73
>>> > ZL1LAC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
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>>> > Morning all,
>>> >
>>> > A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would
>>> follow
>>> > the Aussie's
>>> > with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25
>>> > system where
>>> > Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they
>>> > are big too
>>> > compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per
>>> > control channel.
>>> > All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
>>> > sharing the
>>> > network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some
>>> chatter re
>>> > traffic
>>> > issues on their
>>> > motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally
>>> > aligned with
>>> > encrypted traffic
>>> >
>>> > Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police
>>> encrypted
>>> > and ambos on
>>> > their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the
>>> > morning coffee
>>> > before the family woke and the day started...
>>> >
>>> > Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>>> >
>>> > Shane.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
>>> > radio.restorations at gmail.com<mailto:
>>> <radio.restorations at gmail.com>radio.restorations at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw
>>> was
>>> > pages of blah
>>> > > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system
>>> would be
>>> > implemented.
>>> > > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
>>> > developed an
>>> > > impression, and commented accordingly.
>>> > > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
>>> > operate on
>>> > > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't
>>> > need to be so
>>> > > complicated.
>>> > >
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