<div dir="ltr">Whats the freq for Auckland OSU?<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM <<a href="mailto:thelist-request@radiowiki.org.nz">thelist-request@radiowiki.org.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send TheList mailing list submissions to<br>
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From: Mark Foster <<a href="mailto:blakjak@gmail.com" target="_blank">blakjak@gmail.com</a>><br>
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To the best of my knowledge, Wellington Fire is entirely unencrypted and<br>
analogue at present.<br>
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Gary Stone <<a href="mailto:kaimaikid@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank">kaimaikid@xtra.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
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> quick question<br>
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> Is Wellington's fire that is on the ESX band encrypted?<br>
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Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?<br>
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On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <<a href="mailto:blakjak@gmail.com" target="_blank">blakjak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's not<br>
> encrypted like the Police channels however.<br>
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> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <<a href="mailto:scanchch@gmail.com" target="_blank">scanchch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for<br>
>> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.<br>
>><br>
>> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of<br>
>> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can correct<br>
>> me if I?m wrong<br>
>><br>
>> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National trunked<br>
>> network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the topography of<br>
>> the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to that. The cost<br>
>> to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of sites it would<br>
>> be extremely expensive.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <<a href="mailto:senavick2@gmail.com" target="_blank">senavick2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they not?<br>
>>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...<br>
>>><br>
>>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland system<br>
>>> grows... fingers crossed<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <<a href="mailto:leithacullen@gmail.com" target="_blank">leithacullen@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so<br>
>>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system? Police<br>
>>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all of our<br>
>>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 73<br>
>>>> ZL1LAC<br>
>>>><br>
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>>>>> Morning all,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow the<br>
>>>>> Aussie's<br>
>>>>> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system where<br>
>>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are big too<br>
>>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control<br>
>>>>> channel.<br>
>>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others sharing the<br>
>>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re traffic<br>
>>>>> issues on their<br>
>>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned with<br>
>>>>> encrypted traffic<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and ambos<br>
>>>>> on<br>
>>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning coffee<br>
>>>>> before the family woke and the day started...<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Shane.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:radio.restorations@gmail.com" target="_blank">radio.restorations@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was pages<br>
>>>>> of blah<br>
>>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be<br>
>>>>> implemented.<br>
>>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I developed an<br>
>>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.<br>
>>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to operate on<br>
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>>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?<br>
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One talkgroup: 23072.<br>
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Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?<br>
<br>
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <<a href="mailto:blakjak@gmail.com" target="_blank">blakjak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's not encrypted like the Police channels however.<br>
<br>
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <<a href="mailto:scanchch@gmail.com" target="_blank">scanchch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.<br>
<br>
<br>
Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can correct me if I?m wrong <br>
<br>
As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the topography of the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of sites it would be extremely expensive. <br>
<br>
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <<a href="mailto:senavick2@gmail.com" target="_blank">senavick2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they not?<br>
Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland... <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland system grows... fingers crossed <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <<a href="mailto:leithacullen@gmail.com" target="_blank">leithacullen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system? Police already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all of our services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?<br>
<br>
<br>
73<br>
ZL1LAC<br>
<br>
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From: Shane Vickers <<a href="mailto:senavick2@gmail.com" target="_blank">senavick2@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Morning all,<br>
<br>
A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow the Aussie's<br>
with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system where<br>
Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are big too<br>
compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control channel.<br>
All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others sharing the<br>
network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re traffic<br>
issues on their<br>
motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned with<br>
encrypted traffic<br>
<br>
Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and ambos on<br>
their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning coffee<br>
before the family woke and the day started...<br>
<br>
Looking forward to seeing where this heads....<br>
<br>
Shane.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <<br>
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> I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was pages of blah<br>
> blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be implemented.<br>
> Between that and the various comments here in the list I developed an<br>
> impression, and commented accordingly.<br>
> I have long felt that this requirement for everything to operate on<br>
> digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't need to be so<br>
> complicated.<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
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I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?<a href="http://www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz</a><br>
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