[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 94, Issue 12
DogSecurity - Richard
richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
Tue Aug 15 18:39:53 AEST 2017
I'd guess they have UHF and ESA in the front for driving, then the same
in the back. I thought they had some type of mobile repeater in the
vehicle too, so that will be two aerials, unless the repeater has a
duplexer in it. So that's 5 aerials (if not 6 for if not using a
duplexer) plus they'll have one or two cellular. Each RT should have
it's own transmitting antenna, unless you use a combiner (but there's a
lot of loss, and I understand they aren't cheap)
The reason for on the roof will be so they can get away with quarterwave
aerials, so aerials don't need to be as long. An ESA-band quarterwave
is still just under 1M long. Quarterwaves need a groundplane to perform
properly. To work out the length of a quarterwave, the calculation is
75 divide the transmit frequency.
http://www.111emergency.co.nz/EVENT/FeildingArmed&Emergency/Feildingga.JPG
<-- the thin whips are ESA band, the others are either cellular, or the
ones with the silvertubes under them are UHF Elevated feeds. Looking at
this image, if there is a repeater in the vehicle, I'd say that given
the black mopole is on that extending thing, I'd say that's the repeater
antenna and there IS a duplexer in the vehicle. I doubt it's a fullsize
repeater, it's probably two mobiles linked together in the rackmount
cabinet that's mounted in the vehicle.
http://www.111emergency.co.nz/EVENT/FeildingArmed&Emergency/Feildingge.JPG
<-- the black faced RTs are TM8200s so are probably ESA channels, the
silver faces are either TM9100 or TM9400s which are P25. AOS are known
to be in the UHF band 2 (450 - 530MHz), which means they can have the
analogue UHF channels in them too.
The problem with an antenna farm like that, is there's very little
separation between transmitting aerials. This is pretty important
otherwise you can get RT desensitization (where an RT transmits and
there's two or more RTs close together, potentially one or more may not
get the transmission - in my experience this is more with mobiles than
handhelds)
Damn that's probably the longest, most technical email I've written in a
long time haha.
On 15/08/17 19:52, Radio Solutions wrote:
> That's quite the antenna farm. Just how many radios does one actually
> need?
> If it's AOS, obviously quite a lot!
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> Nah that'll be the AOS van. Next time Westpac hanger does an open
> day,
> head along, the vans always there :)
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> On 14/08/17 19:35, Radio Solutions wrote:
> > Thank you Nino for the info about the radio deployment.
> >
> > I recently saw a Police van in Hamilton with a large antenna farm on
> > the roof.
> > Guessing it's a mobile coms unit?
> >
> >
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> > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:42:15 +1200
> > From: Nino Bianco <nino2678 at slingshot.co.nz
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> > Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
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> > Yes back to the radio discussion. F11 and 1D are AOS simplex
> > channels eagle
> > could have been out of range at the time while enroute to the
> > incident
> > which explains why they were having com's issues. Also last
> time I
> > checked.
> > Eagle has 1 Digital VHF radio with duel heads. 1 UHF Digital
> radio
> > with
> > duel heads and one Lowband VHF analog radio.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Brendan Sheehy
> > <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com <mailto:shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
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> > wrote:
> >
> > > Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable
> > portable. Some
> > > vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted with
> > only analogue
> > > some only digital. I believe the eagle is fitted with both
> > however digital
> > > would be the prefered mode of operation where available. Each
> > AOS command
> > > van has a digital repeater installed for AOS deployments.
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
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> <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>>> on behalf of Dan News <
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> > > *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2017 12:49:49 PM
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> > > *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > > Big brother is out to get us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson
> > <ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>
> <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>>> wrote:
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> > >> Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It has to guard
> > against all
> > >> possibilities.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
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> <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>>] *On Behalf Of *Dan
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> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21
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> > >> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Then what would be the point of the list in the first
> place? We
> > are all
> > >> responsible adults and know the limits.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson
> > <ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>
> <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> There is when you share it to a 3rd party?. Like here.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
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> <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>>] *On Behalf Of *DogSecurity
> > >> - Richard
> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
> > >> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
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> > >> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Listening and streaming it are two very different things
> :) nothing
> > >> illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------
> > >> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity,
> > punctuation and
> > >> spelling.
> > >>
> > >> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy
> > <phantomdb at gmail.com <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>
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> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like you
> > guys are re
> > >> broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard" <
> > >> richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
> <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>>>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio,
> > although at one
> > >> point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder
> > if that's
> > >> still the case - might explain why they weren't using the
> > channel. I'd
> > >> say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS guys
> before
> > he got
> > >> geared up (but had his gear with him) could also have
> been DCC
> > or an
> > >> Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.
> > >>
> > >> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the
> excitement.
> > >>
> > >> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last
> night, just
> > after
> > >> midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were
> > chasing a late
> > >> model Commodore for failing to stop after it was seen
> doing 90
> > in a 50 k
> > >> area.
> > >>
> > >> They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it
> > stopped and
> > >> the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an
> AK-47
> > at them and
> > >> started letting off rounds. The photos on the news sites show
> > the squad car
> > >> windscreen peppered with bullet holes.
> > >>
> > >> During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having
> problems
> > >> communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the
> senior
> > cops said to
> > >> another one that he was going to set up coms with Eagle on
> > 'encrypted
> > >> channel F11'.
> > >>
> > >> It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not
> > issued to
> > >> everyone) which have digital capability.
> > >>
> > >> It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling
> 'ten-ten' (and
> > >> calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I
> never hear
> > it again.
> > >>
> > >> It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio
> with all
> > the North
> > >> Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working
> properly.
> > >>
> > >> In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one
> > stage the
> > >> Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue)
> and was
> > unusable for
> > >> about 5 minutes.
> > >>
> > >> I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put their
> > lives on the
> > >> line every day in front of loose units with guns.
> > >>
> > >>
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> > I think it depends on the area, there are still TP8100 and Orcas
> > around in the Waikato. To be honest, I haven't looked around at
> > their belts lately. Perhaps the GDB TP9300s have digital
> channels
> > in? But definitely not every officer :)
> >
> > Air1Hamilton has digital P25 (VHF), P25 AOS (UHF), A-band as
> well
> > as the Ambulance VHF in it, it'd be fair to assume Eagle is the
> > same. Air2Hamilton doesn't have either P25 radio in it. Eagle
> > should have all radios in it, it definitely used to, as it came
> > down for Fieldays several years ago to monitor traffic flow from
> > the air - from memory using Auxiliary rather than waikato
> rural (I
> > mention that as that's ESA only, no UHF) I've never seen a
> police
> > UHF P25 codeplug, but there's no reason why they couldn't
> have UHF
> > analog frequencies in it.
> > Richard
> > ----------------------
> > Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation
> > and spelling.
> >
> > On 14 August 2017 1:06:42 PM NZST, Brendan Sheehy
> > <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com <mailto:shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
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> <mailto:shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable
> portable.
> > Some
> > >vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted
> with only
> > >analogue some only digital. I believe the eagle is fitted
> with both
> > >however digital would be the prefered mode of operation where
> > >available. Each AOS command van has a digital repeater
> installed for
> > >AOS deployments.
> > >________________________________
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> > >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > >Big brother is out to get us.
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> > >On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson
> > ><ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>
> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz
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> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>>>> wrote:
> > >Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It has to guard
> > against all
> > >possibilities.
> > >
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> > >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21
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> > >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > >Then what would be the point of the list in the first place? We
> > are all
> > >responsible adults and know the limits.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson
> > ><ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>
> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz
> <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>><mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz
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> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>>>> wrote:
> > >There is when you share it to a 3rd party?. Like here.
> > >
> > >From: TheList
> > >[mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
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> > >On Behalf Of DogSecurity - Richard
> > >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
> > >To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> > <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
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> > >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > >Listening and streaming it are two very different things :)
> nothing
> > >illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
> > >
> > >----------------------
> > >Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity,
> punctuation and
> > >spelling.
> > >On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy
> > ><phantomdb at gmail.com <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com
> <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>><mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com
> <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>>>>
> wrote:
> > >Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like
> you guys are
> > >re broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
> > >
> > >On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard"
> > ><richard at dogsecurity.co.nz <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> > <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
> <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>><mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
> <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> > <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
> <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>>>> wrote:
> > >I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio,
> although at
> > >one point they had two choppers, one black one was marked,
> wonder if
> > >that's still the case - might explain why they weren't
> using the
> > >channel. I'd say the unit you heard was probably one of
> the AOS
> > guys
> > >before he got geared up (but had his gear with him) could
> also have
> > >been DCC or an Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.
> > >
> > >I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the
> excitement.
> > >On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
> > >Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night,
> just after
> > >midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were
> chasing a
> > >late model Commodore for failing to stop after it was seen
> doing
> > 90 in
> > >a 50 k area.
> > >They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it
> > stopped and
> > >the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an
> AK-47 at
> > them
> > >and started letting off rounds. The photos on the news
> sites show the
> > >squad car windscreen peppered with bullet holes.
> > >During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having
> problems
> > >communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the
> senior cops
> > >said to another one that he was going to set up coms with
> Eagle on
> > >'encrypted channel F11'.
> > >It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not
> > issued to
> > >everyone) which have digital capability.
> > >It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling
> 'ten-ten' (and
> > >calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never
> hear it
> > >again.
> > >It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio with
> all the
> > >North Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working
> > properly.
> > >In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one
> > stage the
> > >Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue) and was
> > unusable
> > >for about 5 minutes.
> > >I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put
> their lives on
> > >the line every day in front of loose units with guns.
> > >
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