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I'd guess they have UHF and ESA in the front for driving, then the
same in the back. I thought they had some type of mobile repeater
in the vehicle too, so that will be two aerials, unless the repeater
has a duplexer in it. So that's 5 aerials (if not 6 for if not
using a duplexer) plus they'll have one or two cellular. Each RT
should have it's own transmitting antenna, unless you use a combiner
(but there's a lot of loss, and I understand they aren't cheap)<br>
<br>
The reason for on the roof will be so they can get away with
quarterwave aerials, so aerials don't need to be as long. An
ESA-band quarterwave is still just under 1M long. Quarterwaves need
a groundplane to perform properly. To work out the length of a
quarterwave, the calculation is 75 divide the transmit frequency.
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.111emergency.co.nz/EVENT/FeildingArmed&Emergency/Feildingga.JPG">http://www.111emergency.co.nz/EVENT/FeildingArmed&Emergency/Feildingga.JPG</a>
<-- the thin whips are ESA band, the others are either
cellular, or the ones with the silvertubes under them are UHF
Elevated feeds. Looking at this image, if there is a repeater
in the vehicle, I'd say that given the black mopole is on that
extending thing, I'd say that's the repeater antenna and there
IS a duplexer in the vehicle. I doubt it's a fullsize
repeater, it's probably two mobiles linked together in the
rackmount cabinet that's mounted in the vehicle.<br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.111emergency.co.nz/EVENT/FeildingArmed&Emergency/Feildingge.JPG">http://www.111emergency.co.nz/EVENT/FeildingArmed&Emergency/Feildingge.JPG</a>
<-- the black faced RTs are TM8200s so are probably ESA
channels, the silver faces are either TM9100 or TM9400s which
are P25. AOS are known to be in the UHF band 2 (450 -
530MHz), which means they can have the analogue UHF channels
in them too. </p>
<p>The problem with an antenna farm like that, is there's very
little separation between transmitting aerials. This is
pretty important otherwise you can get RT desensitization
(where an RT transmits and there's two or more RTs close
together, potentially one or more may not get the transmission
- in my experience this is more with mobiles than handhelds)
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<p>Damn that's probably the longest, most technical email I've
written in a long time haha.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/08/17 19:52, Radio Solutions
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<div>That's quite the antenna farm. Just how many radios does
one actually need? <br>
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If it's AOS, obviously quite a lot!<br>
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Nah that'll be the AOS van. Next time Westpac hanger does
an open day,<br>
head along, the vans always there :)<br>
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On 14/08/17 19:35, Radio Solutions wrote:<br>
> Thank you Nino for the info about the radio deployment.<br>
><br>
> I recently saw a Police van in Hamilton with a large
antenna farm on<br>
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> Guessing it's a mobile coms unit?<br>
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> Yes back to the radio discussion. F11 and 1D are
AOS simplex<br>
> channels eagle<br>
> could have been out of range at the time while
enroute to the<br>
> incident<br>
> which explains why they were having com's issues.
Also last time I<br>
> checked.<br>
> Eagle has 1 Digital VHF radio with duel heads. 1
UHF Digital radio<br>
> with<br>
> duel heads and one Lowband VHF analog radio.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Brendan Sheehy<br>
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> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Back to radios..... Every officer has a
digital capable<br>
> portable. Some<br>
> > vehicles are fitted out with dual installs.
Some fitted with<br>
> only analogue<br>
> > some only digital. I believe the eagle is
fitted with both<br>
> however digital<br>
> > would be the prefered mode of operation where
available. Each<br>
> AOS command<br>
> > van has a digital repeater installed for AOS
deployments.<br>
> > ------------------------------<br>
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> > *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
> ><br>
> > Big brother is out to get us.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson<br>
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wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Yes but the Government doesn?t think
that. It has to guard<br>
> against all<br>
> >> possibilities.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> *From:* TheList [mailto:<a
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*On Behalf Of *Dan<br>
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> >> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS
incident<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Then what would be the point of the list
in the first place? We<br>
> are all<br>
> >> responsible adults and know the limits.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis
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wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> There is when you share it to a 3rd
party?. Like here.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> *From:* TheList [mailto:<a
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*On Behalf Of *DogSecurity<br>
> >> - Richard<br>
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17<br>
> >> *To:* <a
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> >> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS
incident<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Listening and streaming it are two very
different things :) nothing<br>
> >> illegal about listening to anything on the
airwaves<br>
> >><br>
> >> ----------------------<br>
> >> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse
my brevity,<br>
> punctuation and<br>
> >> spelling.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig
Molloy<br>
> <<a href="mailto:phantomdb@gmail.com"
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> >> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but
to sounds like you<br>
> guys are re<br>
> >> broadcasting information herd.........
Keep safe.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity -
Richard" <<br>
> >> <a
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> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an
ESA band radio,<br>
> although at one<br>
> >> point they had two choppers, one black one
was marked, wonder<br>
> if that's<br>
> >> still the case - might explain why they
weren't using the<br>
> channel. I'd<br>
> >> say the unit you heard was probably one of
the AOS guys before<br>
> he got<br>
> >> geared up (but had his gear with him)
could also have been DCC<br>
> or an<br>
> >> Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I wasn't listening last night so didn't
hear all the excitement.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Spent a few hours listening to all this
unfold last night, just<br>
> after<br>
> >> midnight. For those who aren't aware of
it, the cops were<br>
> chasing a late<br>
> >> model Commodore for failing to stop after
it was seen doing 90<br>
> in a 50 k<br>
> >> area.<br>
> >><br>
> >> They followed it to the outskirts of
Morrinsville, where it<br>
> stopped and<br>
> >> the driver got out and pointed what is
believed to be an AK-47<br>
> at them and<br>
> >> started letting off rounds. The photos on
the news sites show<br>
> the squad car<br>
> >> windscreen peppered with bullet holes.<br>
> >><br>
> >> During all of this they called Eagle in,
but were having problems<br>
> >> communicating with the helo and at one
stage one of the senior<br>
> cops said to<br>
> >> another one that he was going to set up
coms with Eagle on<br>
> 'encrypted<br>
> >> channel F11'.<br>
> >><br>
> >> It would seem then that Waikato cops have
radios (perhaps not<br>
> issued to<br>
> >> everyone) which have digital capability.<br>
> >><br>
> >> It is the first time I have ever heard a
cop calling 'ten-ten' (and<br>
> >> calling it multiple times) on the radio
and I hope I never hear<br>
> it again.<br>
> >><br>
> >> It would seem that if Eagle does have an
analog radio with all<br>
> the North<br>
> >> Island channels programmed, it obviously
wasn't working properly.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In a situation like this, reliable coms is
imperative. At one<br>
> stage the<br>
> >> Waikato channel locked up (probably a
link-line issue) and was<br>
> unusable for<br>
> >> about 5 minutes.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I take my hat off to the bravery of these
guys who put their<br>
> lives on the<br>
> >> line every day in front of loose units
with guns.<br>
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> From: DogSecurity - Richard <<a
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> Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
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> I think it depends on the area, there are still
TP8100 and Orcas<br>
> around in the Waikato. To be honest, I haven't
looked around at<br>
> their belts lately. Perhaps the GDB TP9300s have
digital channels<br>
> in? But definitely not every officer :)<br>
><br>
> Air1Hamilton has digital P25 (VHF), P25 AOS (UHF),
A-band as well<br>
> as the Ambulance VHF in it, it'd be fair to assume
Eagle is the<br>
> same. Air2Hamilton doesn't have either P25 radio in
it. Eagle<br>
> should have all radios in it, it definitely used
to, as it came<br>
> down for Fieldays several years ago to monitor
traffic flow from<br>
> the air - from memory using Auxiliary rather than
waikato rural (I<br>
> mention that as that's ESA only, no UHF) I've never
seen a police<br>
> UHF P25 codeplug, but there's no reason why they
couldn't have UHF<br>
> analog frequencies in it.<br>
> Richard<br>
> ----------------------<br>
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my
brevity, punctuation<br>
> and spelling.<br>
><br>
> On 14 August 2017 1:06:42 PM NZST, Brendan Sheehy<br>
> <<a href="mailto:shiters_r_us@hotmail.com"
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wrote:<br>
> >Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital
capable portable.<br>
> Some<br>
> >vehicles are fitted out with dual installs.
Some fitted with only<br>
> >analogue some only digital. I believe the eagle
is fitted with both<br>
> >however digital would be the prefered mode of
operation where<br>
> >available. Each AOS command van has a digital
repeater installed for<br>
> >AOS deployments.<br>
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> >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
> ><br>
> >Big brother is out to get us.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson<br>
> ><<a href="mailto:ddawson@xnet.co.nz"
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wrote:<br>
> >Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It
has to guard<br>
> against all<br>
> >possibilities.<br>
> ><br>
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> >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
> ><br>
> >Then what would be the point of the list in the
first place? We<br>
> are all<br>
> >responsible adults and know the limits.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson<br>
> ><<a href="mailto:ddawson@xnet.co.nz"
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wrote:<br>
> >There is when you share it to a 3rd party?.
Like here.<br>
> ><br>
> >From: TheList<br>
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> >On Behalf Of DogSecurity - Richard<br>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17<br>
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> >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
> ><br>
> >Listening and streaming it are two very
different things :) nothing<br>
> >illegal about listening to anything on the
airwaves<br>
> ><br>
> >----------------------<br>
> >Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my
brevity, punctuation and<br>
> >spelling.<br>
> >On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy<br>
> ><<a href="mailto:phantomdb@gmail.com"
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:phantomdb@gmail.com"
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wrote:<br>
> >Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to
sounds like you guys are<br>
> >re broadcasting information herd......... Keep
safe.<br>
> ><br>
> >On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity -
Richard"<br>
> ><<a href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz"
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> <mailto:<a
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> <mailto:<a
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wrote:<br>
> >I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA
band radio, although at<br>
> >one point they had two choppers, one black one
was marked, wonder if<br>
> >that's still the case - might explain why they
weren't using the<br>
> >channel. I'd say the unit you heard was
probably one of the AOS<br>
> guys<br>
> >before he got geared up (but had his gear with
him) could also have<br>
> >been DCC or an Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS
member.<br>
> ><br>
> >I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear
all the excitement.<br>
> >On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:<br>
> >Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold
last night, just after<br>
> >midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the
cops were chasing a<br>
> >late model Commodore for failing to stop after
it was seen doing<br>
> 90 in<br>
> >a 50 k area.<br>
> >They followed it to the outskirts of
Morrinsville, where it<br>
> stopped and<br>
> >the driver got out and pointed what is believed
to be an AK-47 at<br>
> them<br>
> >and started letting off rounds. The photos on
the news sites show the<br>
> >squad car windscreen peppered with bullet
holes.<br>
> >During all of this they called Eagle in, but
were having problems<br>
> >communicating with the helo and at one stage
one of the senior cops<br>
> >said to another one that he was going to set up
coms with Eagle on<br>
> >'encrypted channel F11'.<br>
> >It would seem then that Waikato cops have
radios (perhaps not<br>
> issued to<br>
> >everyone) which have digital capability.<br>
> >It is the first time I have ever heard a cop
calling 'ten-ten' (and<br>
> >calling it multiple times) on the radio and I
hope I never hear it<br>
> >again.<br>
> >It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog
radio with all the<br>
> >North Island channels programmed, it obviously
wasn't working<br>
> properly.<br>
> >In a situation like this, reliable coms is
imperative. At one<br>
> stage the<br>
> >Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line
issue) and was<br>
> unusable<br>
> >for about 5 minutes.<br>
> >I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys
who put their lives on<br>
> >the line every day in front of loose units with
guns.<br>
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