[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 94, Issue 12
Radio Solutions
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Tue Aug 15 17:52:24 AEST 2017
That's quite the antenna farm. Just how many radios does one actually need?
If it's AOS, obviously quite a lot!
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz> wrote:
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> Nah that'll be the AOS van. Next time Westpac hanger does an open day,
> head along, the vans always there :)
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> On 14/08/17 19:35, Radio Solutions wrote:
> > Thank you Nino for the info about the radio deployment.
> >
> > I recently saw a Police van in Hamilton with a large antenna farm on
> > the roof.
> > Guessing it's a mobile coms unit?
> >
> >
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> > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:42:15 +1200
> > From: Nino Bianco <nino2678 at slingshot.co.nz
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> > Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
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> > Yes back to the radio discussion. F11 and 1D are AOS simplex
> > channels eagle
> > could have been out of range at the time while enroute to the
> > incident
> > which explains why they were having com's issues. Also last time I
> > checked.
> > Eagle has 1 Digital VHF radio with duel heads. 1 UHF Digital radio
> > with
> > duel heads and one Lowband VHF analog radio.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Brendan Sheehy
> > <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com <mailto:shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable
> > portable. Some
> > > vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted with
> > only analogue
> > > some only digital. I believe the eagle is fitted with both
> > however digital
> > > would be the prefered mode of operation where available. Each
> > AOS command
> > > van has a digital repeater installed for AOS deployments.
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>> on behalf of Dan News <
> > > dan at dannews.co.nz <mailto:dan at dannews.co.nz>>
> > > *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2017 12:49:49 PM
> > > *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> > > *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > > Big brother is out to get us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson
> > <ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It has to guard
> > against all
> > >> possibilities.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Dan
> > >> News
> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21
> > >> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> > >> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Then what would be the point of the list in the first place? We
> > are all
> > >> responsible adults and know the limits.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson
> > <ddawson at xnet.co.nz <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> There is when you share it to a 3rd party?. Like here.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of
> *DogSecurity
> > >> - Richard
> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
> > >> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> > >> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Listening and streaming it are two very different things :)
> nothing
> > >> illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------
> > >> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity,
> > punctuation and
> > >> spelling.
> > >>
> > >> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy
> > <phantomdb at gmail.com <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like you
> > guys are re
> > >> broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard" <
> > >> richard at dogsecurity.co.nz <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio,
> > although at one
> > >> point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder
> > if that's
> > >> still the case - might explain why they weren't using the
> > channel. I'd
> > >> say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS guys before
> > he got
> > >> geared up (but had his gear with him) could also have been DCC
> > or an
> > >> Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.
> > >>
> > >> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the excitement.
> > >>
> > >> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night, just
> > after
> > >> midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were
> > chasing a late
> > >> model Commodore for failing to stop after it was seen doing 90
> > in a 50 k
> > >> area.
> > >>
> > >> They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it
> > stopped and
> > >> the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an AK-47
> > at them and
> > >> started letting off rounds. The photos on the news sites show
> > the squad car
> > >> windscreen peppered with bullet holes.
> > >>
> > >> During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having problems
> > >> communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the senior
> > cops said to
> > >> another one that he was going to set up coms with Eagle on
> > 'encrypted
> > >> channel F11'.
> > >>
> > >> It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not
> > issued to
> > >> everyone) which have digital capability.
> > >>
> > >> It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling 'ten-ten'
> (and
> > >> calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never hear
> > it again.
> > >>
> > >> It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio with all
> > the North
> > >> Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working properly.
> > >>
> > >> In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one
> > stage the
> > >> Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue) and was
> > unusable for
> > >> about 5 minutes.
> > >>
> > >> I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put their
> > lives on the
> > >> line every day in front of loose units with guns.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
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> > Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
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> > I think it depends on the area, there are still TP8100 and Orcas
> > around in the Waikato. To be honest, I haven't looked around at
> > their belts lately. Perhaps the GDB TP9300s have digital channels
> > in? But definitely not every officer :)
> >
> > Air1Hamilton has digital P25 (VHF), P25 AOS (UHF), A-band as well
> > as the Ambulance VHF in it, it'd be fair to assume Eagle is the
> > same. Air2Hamilton doesn't have either P25 radio in it. Eagle
> > should have all radios in it, it definitely used to, as it came
> > down for Fieldays several years ago to monitor traffic flow from
> > the air - from memory using Auxiliary rather than waikato rural (I
> > mention that as that's ESA only, no UHF) I've never seen a police
> > UHF P25 codeplug, but there's no reason why they couldn't have UHF
> > analog frequencies in it.
> > Richard
> > ----------------------
> > Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation
> > and spelling.
> >
> > On 14 August 2017 1:06:42 PM NZST, Brendan Sheehy
> > <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com <mailto:shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > >Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable portable.
> > Some
> > >vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted with only
> > >analogue some only digital. I believe the eagle is fitted with both
> > >however digital would be the prefered mode of operation where
> > >available. Each AOS command van has a digital repeater installed for
> > >AOS deployments.
> > >________________________________
> > >From: TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>> on behalf of Dan News
> > ><dan at dannews.co.nz <mailto:dan at dannews.co.nz>>
> > >Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:49:49 PM
> > >To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> > >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > >Big brother is out to get us.
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson
> > ><ddawson at xnet.co.nz
> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz><mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz
> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>>> wrote:
> > >Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It has to guard
> > against all
> > >possibilities.
> > >
> > >From: TheList
> > >[mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz><mailto:theli
> st-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz>>]
> > >On Behalf Of Dan News
> > >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21
> > >To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz><mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>>
> > >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > >Then what would be the point of the list in the first place? We
> > are all
> > >responsible adults and know the limits.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson
> > ><ddawson at xnet.co.nz
> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz><mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz
> > <mailto:ddawson at xnet.co.nz>>> wrote:
> > >There is when you share it to a 3rd party?. Like here.
> > >
> > >From: TheList
> > >[mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz><mailto:theli
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> > >On Behalf Of DogSecurity - Richard
> > >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
> > >To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz><mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> > <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>>
> > >Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
> > >
> > >Listening and streaming it are two very different things :) nothing
> > >illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
> > >
> > >----------------------
> > >Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
> > >spelling.
> > >On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy
> > ><phantomdb at gmail.com
> > <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com><mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com
> > <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like you guys
> are
> > >re broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
> > >
> > >On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard"
> > ><richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
> > <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz><mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
> > <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>>> wrote:
> > >I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio, although
> at
> > >one point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder if
> > >that's still the case - might explain why they weren't using the
> > >channel. I'd say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS
> > guys
> > >before he got geared up (but had his gear with him) could also have
> > >been DCC or an Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.
> > >
> > >I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the excitement.
> > >On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
> > >Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night, just
> after
> > >midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were chasing a
> > >late model Commodore for failing to stop after it was seen doing
> > 90 in
> > >a 50 k area.
> > >They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it
> > stopped and
> > >the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an AK-47 at
> > them
> > >and started letting off rounds. The photos on the news sites show
> the
> > >squad car windscreen peppered with bullet holes.
> > >During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having problems
> > >communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the senior cops
> > >said to another one that he was going to set up coms with Eagle on
> > >'encrypted channel F11'.
> > >It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not
> > issued to
> > >everyone) which have digital capability.
> > >It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling 'ten-ten' (and
> > >calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never hear it
> > >again.
> > >It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio with all the
> > >North Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working
> > properly.
> > >In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one
> > stage the
> > >Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue) and was
> > unusable
> > >for about 5 minutes.
> > >I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put their lives
> on
> > >the line every day in front of loose units with guns.
> > >
> > >
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