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Nah that'll be the AOS van. Next time Westpac hanger does an open
day, head along, the vans always there :)
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/08/17 19:35, Radio Solutions
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<div>Thank you Nino for the info about the radio deployment.<br>
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I recently saw a Police van in Hamilton with a large antenna
farm on the roof.<br>
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Guessing it's a mobile coms unit?<br>
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From: Nino Bianco <<a
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Yes back to the radio discussion. F11 and 1D are AOS simplex
channels eagle<br>
could have been out of range at the time while enroute to
the incident<br>
which explains why they were having com's issues. Also last
time I checked.<br>
Eagle has 1 Digital VHF radio with duel heads. 1 UHF Digital
radio with<br>
duel heads and one Lowband VHF analog radio.<br>
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Brendan Sheehy <<a
href="mailto:shiters_r_us@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">shiters_r_us@hotmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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> Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable
portable. Some<br>
> vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted
with only analogue<br>
> some only digital. I believe the eagle is fitted with
both however digital<br>
> would be the prefered mode of operation where
available. Each AOS command<br>
> van has a digital repeater installed for AOS
deployments.<br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> *From:* TheList <<a
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> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2017 12:49:49 PM<br>
> *To:* <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
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> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
><br>
> Big brother is out to get us.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson <<a
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wrote:<br>
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>> Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It has
to guard against all<br>
>> possibilities.<br>
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>> News<br>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21<br>
>> *To:* <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
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>> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Then what would be the point of the list in the
first place? We are all<br>
>> responsible adults and know the limits.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson <<a
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*On Behalf Of *DogSecurity<br>
>> - Richard<br>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17<br>
>> *To:* <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Listening and streaming it are two very different
things :) nothing<br>
>> illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves<br>
>><br>
>> ----------------------<br>
>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my
brevity, punctuation and<br>
>> spelling.<br>
>><br>
>> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy
<<a href="mailto:phantomdb@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">phantomdb@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds
like you guys are re<br>
>> broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard"
<<br>
>> <a href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">richard@dogsecurity.co.nz</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band
radio, although at one<br>
>> point they had two choppers, one black one was
marked, wonder if that's<br>
>> still the case - might explain why they weren't
using the channel. I'd<br>
>> say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS
guys before he got<br>
>> geared up (but had his gear with him) could also
have been DCC or an<br>
>> Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.<br>
>><br>
>> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all
the excitement.<br>
>><br>
>> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last
night, just after<br>
>> midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the
cops were chasing a late<br>
>> model Commodore for failing to stop after it was
seen doing 90 in a 50 k<br>
>> area.<br>
>><br>
>> They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville,
where it stopped and<br>
>> the driver got out and pointed what is believed to
be an AK-47 at them and<br>
>> started letting off rounds. The photos on the news
sites show the squad car<br>
>> windscreen peppered with bullet holes.<br>
>><br>
>> During all of this they called Eagle in, but were
having problems<br>
>> communicating with the helo and at one stage one of
the senior cops said to<br>
>> another one that he was going to set up coms with
Eagle on 'encrypted<br>
>> channel F11'.<br>
>><br>
>> It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios
(perhaps not issued to<br>
>> everyone) which have digital capability.<br>
>><br>
>> It is the first time I have ever heard a cop
calling 'ten-ten' (and<br>
>> calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope
I never hear it again.<br>
>><br>
>> It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog
radio with all the North<br>
>> Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't
working properly.<br>
>><br>
>> In a situation like this, reliable coms is
imperative. At one stage the<br>
>> Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line
issue) and was unusable for<br>
>> about 5 minutes.<br>
>><br>
>> I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who
put their lives on the<br>
>> line every day in front of loose units with guns.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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From: DogSecurity - Richard <<a
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Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
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I think it depends on the area, there are still TP8100 and
Orcas around in the Waikato. To be honest, I haven't looked
around at their belts lately. Perhaps the GDB TP9300s have
digital channels in? But definitely not every officer :)<br>
<br>
Air1Hamilton has digital P25 (VHF), P25 AOS (UHF), A-band as
well as the Ambulance VHF in it, it'd be fair to assume
Eagle is the same. Air2Hamilton doesn't have either P25
radio in it. Eagle should have all radios in it, it
definitely used to, as it came down for Fieldays several
years ago to monitor traffic flow from the air - from memory
using Auxiliary rather than waikato rural (I mention that as
that's ESA only, no UHF) I've never seen a police UHF P25
codeplug, but there's no reason why they couldn't have UHF
analog frequencies in it.<br>
Richard<br>
----------------------<br>
Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity,
punctuation and spelling.<br>
<br>
On 14 August 2017 1:06:42 PM NZST, Brendan Sheehy <<a
href="mailto:shiters_r_us@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">shiters_r_us@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable
portable. Some<br>
>vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted
with only<br>
>analogue some only digital. I believe the eagle is
fitted with both<br>
>however digital would be the prefered mode of operation
where<br>
>available. Each AOS command van has a digital repeater
installed for<br>
>AOS deployments.<br>
>_____________________________<wbr>___<br>
>From: TheList <<a
href="mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz"
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on behalf of Dan News<br>
><<a href="mailto:dan@dannews.co.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">dan@dannews.co.nz</a>><br>
>Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:49:49 PM<br>
>To: <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
>Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
><br>
>Big brother is out to get us.<br>
><br>
><br>
>On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson<br>
><<a href="mailto:ddawson@xnet.co.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">ddawson@xnet.co.nz</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ddawson@xnet.co.nz" moz-do-not-send="true">dd<wbr>awson@xnet.co.nz</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>Yes but the Government doesn?t think that. It has to
guard against all<br>
>possibilities.<br>
><br>
>From: TheList<br>
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>On Behalf Of Dan News<br>
>Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21<br>
>To: <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
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>Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
><br>
>Then what would be the point of the list in the first
place? We are all<br>
>responsible adults and know the limits.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson<br>
><<a href="mailto:ddawson@xnet.co.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">ddawson@xnet.co.nz</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:ddawson@xnet.co.nz" moz-do-not-send="true">dd<wbr>awson@xnet.co.nz</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>There is when you share it to a 3rd party?. Like here.<br>
><br>
>From: TheList<br>
>[mailto:<a
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>On Behalf Of DogSecurity - Richard<br>
>Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17<br>
>To: <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><<wbr>mailto:<a
href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz"
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>Subject: Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<br>
><br>
>Listening and streaming it are two very different things
:) nothing<br>
>illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves<br>
><br>
>----------------------<br>
>Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity,
punctuation and<br>
>spelling.<br>
>On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy<br>
><<a href="mailto:phantomdb@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">phantomdb@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:phantomdb@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">p<wbr>hantomdb@gmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like
you guys are<br>
>re broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.<br>
><br>
>On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard"<br>
><<a href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">richard@dogsecurity.co.nz</a><<wbr>mailto:<a
href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz"
moz-do-not-send="true">richard@dogsecurity.co.<wbr>nz</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band
radio, although at<br>
>one point they had two choppers, one black one was
marked, wonder if<br>
>that's still the case - might explain why they weren't
using the<br>
>channel. I'd say the unit you heard was probably one
of the AOS guys<br>
>before he got geared up (but had his gear with him)
could also have<br>
>been DCC or an Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.<br>
><br>
>I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the
excitement.<br>
>On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:<br>
>Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last
night, just after<br>
>midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops
were chasing a<br>
>late model Commodore for failing to stop after it was
seen doing 90 in<br>
>a 50 k area.<br>
>They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where
it stopped and<br>
>the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an
AK-47 at them<br>
>and started letting off rounds. The photos on the news
sites show the<br>
>squad car windscreen peppered with bullet holes.<br>
>During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having
problems<br>
>communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the
senior cops<br>
>said to another one that he was going to set up coms
with Eagle on<br>
>'encrypted channel F11'.<br>
>It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios
(perhaps not issued to<br>
>everyone) which have digital capability.<br>
>It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling
'ten-ten' (and<br>
>calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I
never hear it<br>
>again.<br>
>It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio
with all the<br>
>North Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't
working properly.<br>
>In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative.
At one stage the<br>
>Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue)
and was unusable<br>
>for about 5 minutes.<br>
>I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put
their lives on<br>
>the line every day in front of loose units with guns.<br>
><br>
><br>
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