[TheList] Wellington

Thu Jul 22 16:36:59 AEST 2021

Yes definitely an expired section right down the bottom.

People are cheap, and when you can convince them to buy new Hardware 
they want rock bottom price and expect the world for it. Thankfully I 
don't have too many customers like that but there is always a few who 
try it on or just end up wasting time completely.

On 22/07/2021 6:27 p.m., DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
> Yeah could do that for sure.  Unless it's a wideband commercial 
> channel that expired quite some time ago (maybe 5 years?) I feel those 
> should go - I don't think there's much point keeping stuff that's very 
> old.   Or perhaps we create a new section under each region 
> specifically for expired stuff, so the main body is newer. That sounds 
> like a better plan.  It's more for smaller areas that don't see many 
> people making changes - I suspect it might get worse when NGCC comes 
> in, in a few years time and people start not really playing around in 
> the airwaves much.
>
> If a company is still running around on wideband, they need a slap and 
> deserve the fine from RSM and it's honestly shocking they're still 
> doing it - a license for a simplex channel is $150/year.  I don't get 
> it, hell of a lot cheaper than a fine, and doesn't annoy other users.  
> And it can be considered a business expense.  Kind of a shame RSM 
> aren't more active tracking people down - I'm sure if a customer 
> stopped paying their Vodafone or Telecom bill, they'd get cut off real 
> quick.  Then again a lot of companies seem to be cheap... We had a few 
> agricultural customers still running GM950s and other old radios like 
> that.  Folks, if you don't blink an eye at dropping quarter a million 
> on a brand new self driving tractor or a digger, an extra grand on a 
> new radio isn't going to kill you... especially when I have to come 
> back a year later to replace it when it finally gives up.  I had that 
> a few times... Say a radio is $1200, and it lasts 10 years, that's 
> only $120 a year.  Anyway, enough ranting, thanks for the reply Radio 
> Scanner :)
>
>
> On 22/07/2021 17:55, Radio Scanner wrote:
>> I don't use my Scanner much nowadays but I know of a couple Companies 
>> using expired/cancelled Simplex Licences a few years ago. I suppose 
>> they just couldn't be bothered paying any more. Unless people 
>> personally know for sure, can we just mark those "expired" Channels - 
>> just so listeners have a heads up that the Channel could still be in 
>> use regardless of Licence status?
>>
>> On 22/07/2021 11:19 a.m., DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
>>> Hi team,
>>>
>>> I'm certainly not here to nitpick, but I noticed the additions of 
>>> Kmart and TWL frequencies to the Wellington region.
>>>
>>> I'm specifically interested in the Kmart 1&2, 3&4 frequencies.  
>>> These are both repeaters registered to Coles Group NZ Holdings (who 
>>> seem to be the parent company to Kmart)  CN28 and CN168 (Kmart 1/2 
>>> and 2/3 respectively) are repeater input and output frequencies.... 
>>> in Auckland.  Is anyone able to confirm that's correct? I'm 
>>> suspecting it's not, although it could be Kmart using unlicensed 
>>> frequencies. Also TWL 5, 6 are simplex channels used by Kmart in 
>>> AKL, Napier and CHCH areas.
>>>
>>> If they can be reconfirmed, that'd be great.  Also I think it's 
>>> going to be a good idea to remove the Kmart 2 and 4 frequencies as 
>>> they're repeater inputs (for a repeater that's not anywhere near the 
>>> WLG area) and I feel that having TX frequencies is a very bad idea.. 
>>> you know, for cheap Chinese radio reasons haha.
>>>
>>> At some point soon I want to go through and compare all areas 
>>> against RSMs listings for expired/cancelled licenses to tidy up 
>>> dead/wideband frequencies.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
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