[TheList] MPT1327 and TIER 3 DMR

Sat Apr 18 05:57:12 AEST 2020

Another reason could be is mototrbo connect plus and capacity plus are all
proprietary and closed source vendor locked. Where Tait Tlll DMR is open
and not vendor locked

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, 00:46 Radio Scanner, <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, thanks for the detailed explanation. Not a lot of point in trying to
> support a 20+ year old system that will soon be decommissioned.
>
> I see this sort of thing in my day to day work and it pretty much comes
> down to companies trying to make a extra buck because something "looks
> easy". If everyone stuck to their own industry not only would it keep
> people in employment, it would also ensure things were done right the first
> time so the customer actually gets what they are paying for.
>
> On 17/04/2020 11:58 p.m., DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
>
> Apologies, I changed subject slightly, and I wasn't very clear other than
> in my head lol... Trbos will run on the 1327 networks... Not on the new
> tier3 system. On 1327, the DM4000s would go a little deaf on extenders but
> would work fine on standard repeaters . From what I was told, the issue was
> that the 4000 would see the standard control channel info, but disregard it
> because the radio knew that it was sitting on an extender (IE the extender
> was sending out CC info of the master) Motorola tried fixing it via the
> team in the Philippines but they disbanded them not long after releasing a
> fix, because we're the only country still using a 1327 based system.
>
> For the DM3000 and 4000s on tier3. A lot of the technical staff left, also
> Motorola and Tait do GPS differently so I guess the problem was around that
> somewhere.
>
> They lost the dealership because they weren't buying enough equipment I
> think (to stay a dealer, you have to meet targets) also other dealers were
> getting a little testy because Vital were trying to sell equipment directly
> to dealers customers, or customers would go directly to them for equipment,
> ie we had one buying cheap t2040s from vital and getting a local autosparky
> (or themselves) who don't know the difference between a CB and a uhf
> aerial, then get a dealer in to fix the absolute shambles, or when the
> customer moaned, Vital would get a dealer in to fix ... Which would
> eventually lead to basically a whole new install being done. I hated fixing
> someone elses shitty install. Vital probably should have stayed an airtime
> provider to keep everyone happy.
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> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
> spelling.
>
> On 17 April 2020 10:45:29 pm NZST, Radio Scanner <rs157950 at gmail.com>
> <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The tone is slightly different I have found. See what you reckon with the
>> sites in your area, to me ActionNet seems to be "faster".
>>
>> I personally know of a bunch of trbo radios that have run on Fleetlink
>> for a number of years, is this a new rule?
>>
>> How did they lose their dealer status...
>>
>> On 17/04/2020 10:18 p.m., DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is they're basically the same system, so I'd be
>> surprised if they sound different. I know they aren't interchangeable (Ie
>> you can't interfleet between Fleetlink and ActionNet.
>>
>> I believe one is a proper MPT1327 system, the other is a slightly
>> modified version of the protocol that was ex Post Office before being
>> acquired by TeamTalk. Could be wrong, but I seem to recall that was the
>> answer when I asked.
>>
>> For peoples interest, it appears there was some issues with MotoTRBOs
>> being on the network (TT now Vital went with Tait) and some features won't
>> work... Last I heard is they'd flat out said no trbo being on the network,
>> but given they've directly sold 4000 series radios to some of their
>> customers before they lost their dealer status, they're probably going to
>> have to relax on that rule.
>> Richard W
>> Patrol Supervisor
>> Armourguard Waikato
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>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
>> spelling.
>>
>> On 17 April 2020 12:51:29 pm NZST, Radio Scanner <rs157950 at gmail.com>
>> <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> While we are on the subject, can someone please explain why there is two
>>> different MPT1327 networks? I do notice the control channels sound
>>> different on an analog scanner but no idea why that is.
>>>
>>> On 17/04/2020 10:41 a.m., Brendan Sheehy wrote:
>>>
>>> Actionet is scheduled to be shutdown end of the year.
>>>
>>> Fleetlink is to remain for at least another year or two I believe.
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* [TheList] MPT1327 and TIER 3 DMR
>>>
>>> Hi listers
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if or when the MPT1327 network will be fully replaced
>>> with the T3 DMR network?
>>> Obviously T3 is out there and busier in some places than others.
>>> Down in Timaru we have a busy MPT and a silent T3, I've only heard one
>>> transmission on T3 over the last week.
>>>
>>> It's not easy to map out silent voice channels.
>>>
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