[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 5
Leith Cullen
leithacullen at gmail.com
Wed Oct 2 09:54:45 AEST 2019
Whats the freq for Auckland OSU?
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> To the best of my knowledge, Wellington Fire is entirely unencrypted and
> analogue at present.
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> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Gary Stone <kaimaikid at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
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> > quick question
> >
> > Is Wellington's fire that is on the ESX band encrypted?
> >
> > Cheers
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> Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
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> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's
> not
> > encrypted like the Police channels however.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for
> >> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
> >>
> >> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of
> >> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can
> correct
> >> me if I?m wrong
> >>
> >> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
> trunked
> >> network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the topography
> of
> >> the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to that. The
> cost
> >> to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of sites it
> would
> >> be extremely expensive.
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they not?
> >>> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
> >>>
> >>> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland system
> >>> grows... fingers crossed
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <leithacullen at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these, so
> >>>> would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system?
> Police
> >>>> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all of
> our
> >>>> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
> >>>>
> >>>> 73
> >>>> ZL1LAC
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> >>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
> >>>>> From: Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
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> >>>>> Morning all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow the
> >>>>> Aussie's
> >>>>> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25 system
> where
> >>>>> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they are big
> too
> >>>>> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per control
> >>>>> channel.
> >>>>> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others sharing
> the
> >>>>> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
> traffic
> >>>>> issues on their
> >>>>> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally aligned
> with
> >>>>> encrypted traffic
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted and
> ambos
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the morning
> coffee
> >>>>> before the family woke and the day started...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Shane.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
> >>>>> radio.restorations at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was pages
> >>>>> of blah
> >>>>> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
> >>>>> implemented.
> >>>>> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I developed
> an
> >>>>> > impression, and commented accordingly.
> >>>>> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to operate on
> >>>>> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't need to be
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> > complicated.
> >>>>> >
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> >>>>> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
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> From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> Scan CHCH
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> Anyone know the TalkGroup #?s For OSU ?
>
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Auckland OSU P25 is on the Police-administered, AOG P25 network. It's
> not encrypted like the Police channels however.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:51 AM Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The VHF and UHF P25 systems are linked. VHF for vehicles and UHF for
> portables. But yes WGTN free are on the system in Welly.
>
>
> Auckland ops support are on linked conventional P25 by the looks of
> radiowiki rather than the Police Trunked P25 network. But Mark can correct
> me if I?m wrong
>
> As others have suggested i too would have liked to see a National
> trunked network like Australian state systems but I don?t think the
> topography of the South Island or parts of central north are conducive to
> that. The cost to implement over lapping coverage and the sheer number of
> sites it would be extremely expensive.
>
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019, Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Wellington Free Ambo's are trialing on the P25 VHF system are they
> not?
> Auckland Fire Police share the P25 UHF system in Auckland...
>
>
>
> Was looking forward to monitoring talk groups as the Auckland
> system grows... fingers crossed
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM Leith Cullen <
> leithacullen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From what I gather Protect 25 is aimed for services like these,
> so would it make sense for all our services to jump on this system? Police
> already have a system in place, how much would it cost to get all of our
> services on to P25 network compared to making a whole new system?
>
>
> 73
> ZL1LAC
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: NGCC (Brendan Sheehy) (Shane Vickers)
> 2. Re: NGCC (Brendan Sheehy) (Bob)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 09:29:43 +1300
> From: Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com>
> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [TheList] NGCC (Brendan Sheehy)
> Message-ID:
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> Morning all,
>
> A very interesting topic, I admit I has hoping we would follow
> the Aussie's
> with their state wide system.. They appear to have a P25
> system where
> Fire, Ambos and the Police are all sharing the system, they
> are big too
> compared with here with easy 10 plus voice channels per
> control channel.
> All (most) the police remained encrypted however the others
> sharing the
> network where in the clear.. I thought I heard some chatter re
> traffic
> issues on their
> motorway networks in Sydney on talk groups that generally
> aligned with
> encrypted traffic
>
> Gold Coast ruined that for me with fire and police encrypted
> and ambos on
> their own system.. oh well that took the fun out of the
> morning coffee
> before the family woke and the day started...
>
> Looking forward to seeing where this heads....
>
> Shane.
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Radio Engineering <
> radio.restorations at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did try to read the public documentation but all I saw was
> pages of blah
> > blah blah and not much about how exactly the system would be
> implemented.
> > Between that and the various comments here in the list I
> developed an
> > impression, and commented accordingly.
> > I have long felt that this requirement for everything to
> operate on
> > digital platforms is an over-engineering of what doesn't
> need to be so
> > complicated.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TheList mailing list
> > TheList at radiowiki.org.nz
> >
> http://radiowiki.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/thelist_radiowiki.org.nz
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> I listen to live feeds from oz fire and ambosBob the Bookman?
> www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz
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