[TheList] The Radiocommunications Act

Wed Jan 30 07:51:12 AEDT 2019

How is it killing the hobby?  We should be embracing change and adapting. 

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   1. Re: The Radiocommunications Act (Nino White)

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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 07:27:16 +1300
From: Nino White <nbhunga at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TheList] The Radiocommunications Act
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Completely agree with Richard on this. Online Streaming is killing the hobby

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019, 07:23 DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz
wrote:

> I think we need to remember that Emergency Services should be allowed to
> do their jobs unimpeded. While some would argue it keeps everyone honest,
> it also can be a bad thing, and why a lot of people go digital (and
> sometimes encrypted too)
>
> IE if ambulance attend a heart attack job that goes fatal, it's not really
> fair that the job is streamed to the internet and someone who knows a
> person at the address hears it and starts posting on social media that the
> patient has passed away. Family then might decide to go to the hospital and
> demand to see the patient who may not even be at the mortuary yet. There's
> a process that needs to be followed, and jumping the gun doesn't help
> anyone - this is one way to curb that.
>
> Also take a commercial customer as another example. Taxi company A who
> only use voice with telephone interconnect gets called to pick up at an
> address. Taxi company B has a scanner/phone streaming taxi company As voice
> channel hears this and goes to the address to try beat the other company to
> the fare.
>
> Going digital stopped this until Uniden came out with DMR capability. Now
> a lot of people are choosing to go encrypted as well. Remember when doing a
> MOTOTRBO codeplug, for example, adding encryption adds about 10 seconds to
> my job when setting up a master codeplug.
>
> I think that not allowing rebroadcasting is actually a good thing, sure it
> inconveniences our hobby, but the people who have the license to these
> channels don't care - we aren't the intended recipient.
> Richard
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> On 29 January 2019 11:08:07 PM NZDT, Leith Cullen <leithacullen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> This is crazy, just look at the radio feeds in the US, then look here.  A
>> Stupid law stopping us for from taking something and sticking it in the
>> internet...  Crazy as hell.
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>>    1. Re: The Radiocommunications Act. (Mark Foster)
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>>    2. Scanner for sale or swap (Bob)
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>> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:52:41 +1300
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>> From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [TheList] The Radiocommunications Act.
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>> I don't think there's been any particular need for a specific declaration
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>> for some time.
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>> Section 78AA of the Crimes Act 1961 makes it an offense to disclose
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>> classified information.
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>> http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM7453603.html
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>> Section 74 of the Crimes Act defines the punishment for Treason.
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>> http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328521.html
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>> Life Imprisonment for doing it, or up to 14 years in prison for
>> conspiracy,
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>> or up to 14 years for attempted treason (if you are a subject of the
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>> Commonwealth).
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>> There's a whole other set of coverage if you happen to be employed in the
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>> Intelligence Community...
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>> Mark.
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>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 1:56 PM Neill Ellis <tgsnoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Pretty sure Treason still carries a death penalty in NZ too.
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>> > Have also signed several versions of the Declaration of Secrecy.
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>> > Neill.
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>> > On 27/01/2019 7:08 AM, Martin Cook wrote:
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>> > > Way back in the 60's when I was a Radio Officer in the UK Merchant
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>> > > Navy I had to sign a document to say that I was bound by the "Secrecy
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>> > > of Communications Act" which meant that I was not only to disclose or
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>> > > use to gain a pecuniary advantage any information that I had received,
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>> > > either intended for me or for anyone else, but I could not even admit
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>> > > to the existence or reception of any information other than to the
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>> > > intended recipient.
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>> > >
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>> > > Later on I joined the Royal Naval Reserve as a Radio Operator and had
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>> > > to sign the "Official Secrets Act" which also meant that I could not
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>> > > tell anybody about some equipment that I had knowledge about. These
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>> > > acts are still in force and there is no let out clause so I can't tell
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>> > > anybody anything!
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>> > > The penalties for some of these offences are somewhat severe,
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>> > > especially in wartime. Did you know that sabotage to one of Her
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>> > > Majesty's ships still carries the death penalty?
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>> > > On that happy note - cheers - Martin.
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>> I brought a yupiteru 7100 that I have just not used not sure why I? even
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>> So for sale or swap for why
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>> Nice conditionNo power lead
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