[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 110, Issue 2

Tue Feb 5 09:37:13 AEDT 2019

There are non-interactive elements of Facebook. You don't have to log-in to
Facebook to use the public-facing aspects of it.
So if your website is a simple 'brochure' for your services that needs to
push out some photos, text describing what you do, and your phone number /
email address, then you may choose to do that with public-facing Facebook
content.  Interacting with it as an anonymous web browser discloses nothing.
If your moral threshold is breached then you are entirely within your right
to not use it, true, but businesses doing so have to be making a calculated
decision, understanding that some users will avoid them.

You can choose to be pissed off if you wish :-)  If this group were to
migrate to Facebook I would not object (not enough to sway the decision)
but I use Facebook on the basis of a reasonably well informed position.

Another community that i'm an administrator of is in the throws of
evaluating a move to Facebook from their own web-forum because Facebook
already has enough of a critical mass to make it easy - relative to the
need to continue to secure and maintain an interactive web presence from
security vulnerabilities and spammers/scammers. So I can understand the
appeal.

I do think that even a relatively simple, 'brochure-style' website
independent of social media platforms is a good idea, as it serves to act
as a channel to those who would otherwise avoid Facebook and its kin. But
each to their own.

The point is moot here anyway as no one has seriously proposed a move from
the mailing list and wiki.

Mark.

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:27 PM Stephen <kiwis1 at slingshot.co.nz> wrote:

> The “proper website” comment is very accurate, and an informed one.
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> Websites can reach every computer/mobility device user, while Facebook
> only reaches those who have not made a moral/other decision to refuse to
> touch it.
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> Some of us refuse it, because of all the harm with data breaches,
> interfering with election outcomes, and discrimination led killings it has
> caused/assisted, around the world.
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> If you are a business/organisation that has an informative website, you
> are ready 24/4 to inform all potential customers.
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> If you refuse to create and maintain a proper website, and just have a
> Facebook presence, you will only reach some, and piss off some others like
> me, especially with a nag screen that says you have to login or join to see
> more content.
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> Is that good marketing?
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> Stephen
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> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> Foster
> *Sent:* Monday, 4 February 2019 11:09 AM
> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 110, Issue 2
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> "Proper website" comment is misinformed.
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> Facebook has a large critical mass of people on it. Many people use it, so
> when you can then easily integrate connecting with your fan base / customer
> base via something that already exists on their devices, why wouldn't you?
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> Not that i'm a huge fan of Facebook but I recognise what it's good at.
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> Websites are just one tool, Facebook is very much another. They have
> different places on the shelf.
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> As do mailing lists, which I still think have merit.
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> On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 3:07 PM Radio Scanner <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ill agree with others re farcebook. I myself don't go anywhere near it
> even though it seems to have become the defacto go to - even for rather
> large companies who have more than enough cash to stump up for a proper
> website. Sad really.
>
> On 3/02/2019 2:38 p.m., Gary Stone wrote:
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> I was thinking more along the lines of keeping everything as it is and
> adding a facebook group to it as well
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> On 3/02/2019 2:30 PM, richard Pringle wrote:
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> I like it how it is personally
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> One thing I was thinking about was shouldn't we by now have a facebook
> group preferably set to private or hidden for only the members of the
> list and not every tom dick or harry for having open and meaningful
> discussions and sharing of files ect cet
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