[TheList] TIII Network

Fri Apr 3 14:47:02 AEDT 2020

The Unidens use the TD channel number as per my calculation earlier.
Regards
Brendan
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There's another calculation you'll need to convert dsd channels to the uniden channels, I'm heading into work so can't look.. But search radioreference it's there... Be aware that it's only for the even number channel (so if the channel is 642, is the odd channel 641 or 643, the calculator won't work that out for you)
Richard W
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On 3 April 2020 3:50:48 pm NZDT, Darryl Healy <darryl0768healy at gmail.com> wrote:
Tim you'll need to search for the audible control channels or find voice channels and map it out. I have just started using an sdr rtl with DSD plus fastlane software.

It took alot for me to get it going but with the help of a nice fellas I got it working great and have started my digital radio journey.
I have an SDS100 scanner on it's way in the post so it will make things easier with this software to get info and to program it.

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Ho

Are there any of these networks in Dunedin that I can listen to I'm
listening to Delta on one network but that's about it. Anyone can point me
in the right direction as always I would be greatly appreciative of that

Tim

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 14:45 DogSecurity - Richard, <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz<mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>>
wrote:

> These are all the new Tier3 Vital (the new name of Teamtalk) network that
> will eventually replace Fleetlink and ActionNet completely.  These are
> likely existing Fleetlink and/or ActionNet sites, that have had some of the
> MPT1327 voice channels removed and Tier3 gear installed.
>
> I can't help with mapping it out, as I'm not down there, you might be the
> best positioned to do that, as you're clearly receiving multiple sites from
> your location.
>
> Mapping them out will be a slow process as you have to wait for voice
> activity.  When mapping, I tend to search each control channel to get the
> site name on RSM, then search for Vital as customer, and that repeater site
> as the Transmit location... add all of those channels into a scanner and
> listen for which are trunking and which are mpt1327 channels.... if you're
> scanning and hear voice - it's gotta be part of the MPT1327 systems so can
> be removed.  Eventually you'll only have DMR channels left. Then it's a
> case of letting DSDPlus do the work for you, matching the DMR channels to
> DSD channels to get a full map.  There's probably a better way of doing
> this, however I don't think searching for emission 7K60FXWDT will help, as
> I think the channels are registered as both analog and digital capable.
>
> Anyone reading that doesn't understand, remember that you'll only receive
> talkgroups on a site that has a subscriber radio subscribed.  IE if
> CustomerA has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA, and CustomerB has
> Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA and SiteB.  When CustomerA does a
> group call, you'll hear it on SiteA and NOT SiteB, whereas CustomerB you'll
> receive on both.  This isn't a limitation of the scanner, you're likely not
> doing anything wrong.. but how the network is designed to work.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 3/04/2020 14:23, Darryl Healy wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Timaru based
>
> Does anyone have any info on a couple of Tiii networks?
>  H2-32.2 (414.31250, 410.66250 and 412.06250),
>  H2-31.6 (414 38750),
>  H2-31.5 (414 42500),
>  H2-31.2 (416.7500) which I am receiving locally in Timaru.
>
> Id anyone has these Tiii sites mapped out could I get more info on them?
>
> Any info on these networks would be great trying to map it out on DSD Plus
> fastlane.
>
> Darryl
>
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From: Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com<mailto:scanchch at gmail.com>>
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I have mapped out 3 of the Christchurch sites

On Friday, April 3, 2020, Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com<mailto:timdevaneynz at gmail.com>> wrote:

> Ho
>
> Are there any of these networks in Dunedin that I can listen to I'm
> listening to Delta on one network but that's about it. Anyone can point me
> in the right direction as always I would be greatly appreciative of that
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 14:45 DogSecurity - Richard, <
> richard at dogsecurity.co.nz<mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>> wrote:
>
>> These are all the new Tier3 Vital (the new name of Teamtalk) network that
>> will eventually replace Fleetlink and ActionNet completely.  These are
>> likely existing Fleetlink and/or ActionNet sites, that have had some of the
>> MPT1327 voice channels removed and Tier3 gear installed.
>>
>> I can't help with mapping it out, as I'm not down there, you might be the
>> best positioned to do that, as you're clearly receiving multiple sites from
>> your location.
>>
>> Mapping them out will be a slow process as you have to wait for voice
>> activity.  When mapping, I tend to search each control channel to get the
>> site name on RSM, then search for Vital as customer, and that repeater site
>> as the Transmit location... add all of those channels into a scanner and
>> listen for which are trunking and which are mpt1327 channels.... if you're
>> scanning and hear voice - it's gotta be part of the MPT1327 systems so can
>> be removed.  Eventually you'll only have DMR channels left. Then it's a
>> case of letting DSDPlus do the work for you, matching the DMR channels to
>> DSD channels to get a full map.  There's probably a better way of doing
>> this, however I don't think searching for emission 7K60FXWDT will help, as
>> I think the channels are registered as both analog and digital capable.
>>
>> Anyone reading that doesn't understand, remember that you'll only receive
>> talkgroups on a site that has a subscriber radio subscribed.  IE if
>> CustomerA has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA, and CustomerB has
>> Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA and SiteB.  When CustomerA does a
>> group call, you'll hear it on SiteA and NOT SiteB, whereas CustomerB you'll
>> receive on both.  This isn't a limitation of the scanner, you're likely not
>> doing anything wrong.. but how the network is designed to work.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On 3/04/2020 14:23, Darryl Healy wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> Timaru based
>>
>> Does anyone have any info on a couple of Tiii networks?
>>  H2-32.2 (414.31250, 410.66250 and 412.06250),
>>  H2-31.6 (414 38750),
>>  H2-31.5 (414 42500),
>>  H2-31.2 (416.7500) which I am receiving locally in Timaru.
>>
>> Id anyone has these Tiii sites mapped out could I get more info on them?
>>
>> Any info on these networks would be great trying to map it out on DSD
>> Plus fastlane.
>>
>> Darryl
>>
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Easiest way is to run the control channel through DSD+ it will list the voice channels for each call.
Then just divide the even channel number by 2 ? 1 and you will have the TD channel number for that voice channel.

Tim I have some Dunedin sites setup in my Uniden I?ll pull them out shortly and email you direct.

Regards

Brendan

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From: Scan CHCH<mailto:scanchch at gmail.com<mailto:scanchch at gmail.com>>
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I have mapped out 3 of the Christchurch sites

On Friday, April 3, 2020, Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com<mailto:timdevaneynz at gmail.com><mailto:timdevaneynz at gmail.com<mailto:timdevaneynz at gmail.com>>> wrote:
Ho

Are there any of these networks in Dunedin that I can listen to I'm listening to Delta on one network but that's about it. Anyone can point me in the right direction as always I would be greatly appreciative of that

Tim

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 14:45 DogSecurity - Richard, <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz<mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz><mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz<mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>>> wrote:

These are all the new Tier3 Vital (the new name of Teamtalk) network that will eventually replace Fleetlink and ActionNet completely.  These are likely existing Fleetlink and/or ActionNet sites, that have had some of the MPT1327 voice channels removed and Tier3 gear installed.

I can't help with mapping it out, as I'm not down there, you might be the best positioned to do that, as you're clearly receiving multiple sites from your location.

Mapping them out will be a slow process as you have to wait for voice activity.  When mapping, I tend to search each control channel to get the site name on RSM, then search for Vital as customer, and that repeater site as the Transmit location... add all of those channels into a scanner and listen for which are trunking and which are mpt1327 channels.... if you're scanning and hear voice - it's gotta be part of the MPT1327 systems so can be removed.  Eventually you'll only have DMR channels left. Then it's a case of letting DSDPlus do the work for you, matching the DMR channels to DSD channels to get a full map.  There's probably a better way of doing this, however I don't think searching for emission 7K60FXWDT will help, as I think the channels are registered as both analog and digital capable.

Anyone reading that doesn't understand, remember that you'll only receive talkgroups on a site that has a subscriber radio subscribed.  IE if CustomerA has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA, and CustomerB has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA and SiteB.  When CustomerA does a group call, you'll hear it on SiteA and NOT SiteB, whereas CustomerB you'll receive on both.  This isn't a limitation of the scanner, you're likely not doing anything wrong.. but how the network is designed to work.

Cheers,

Richard

On 3/04/2020 14:23, Darryl Healy wrote:
Hi everyone.

Timaru based

Does anyone have any info on a couple of Tiii networks?
 H2-32.2 (414.31250, 410.66250 and 412.06250),
 H2-31.6 (414 38750),
 H2-31.5 (414 42500),
 H2-31.2 (416.7500) which I am receiving locally in Timaru.

Id anyone has these Tiii sites mapped out could I get more info on them?

Any info on these networks would be great trying to map it out on DSD Plus fastlane.

Darryl

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