[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 109, Issue 5

Leith Cullen leithacullen at gmail.com
Tue Jan 15 17:50:46 AEDT 2019


Have you all considered looking into something called POCSAG?

Leith - ZL1LAC

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> From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com>
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> I had the impression Fire purchased the entire network as a going concern
> and contracted Spark to run it.
>
> I hadn't heard that they'd rescinded any of the channels involved.
>
> My very limited exposure to Paging suggests that not a lot has changed over
> the last few years, except perhaps a reduction in the number of
> non-emergency-services using paging (as the base costs exploded when Fire
> took the network over... this was the catalyst that would've pushed many
> people to switch less time-critical stuff to SMS or Push Alerts.
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> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 6:16 AM Neill Ellis <tgsnoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Since when? Not even that high in EIRP considering antenna gain. The
> > original transmitters were NEC 100 Watt output. Later were 250W through
> > big isolators sharing antenna, as they were 25 kHz off each other they
> > lost around 3dB of power in the process (Aka output to aerial in the
> > 100-125W region) Pretty sure the colinear aerials they used didn't have
> > 10+ dBi gain. Just cause the licence says it's EIRP, doesn't mean it is
> it.
> >
> >
> > Would be very interested if things have changed dramatically since I had
> > my hands on that network.
> >
> >
> > Pretty sure Spark shut it down & only 1 is running now, but owned by
> > Fire & Emergency.
> >
> >
> > Neill ZL1TAJ
> >
> >
> > On 14/01/2019 10:50 PM, Radio Scanner wrote:
> > > Most of the Telecom paging network run 1KW transmitters, id be
> > > surprised if you can't receive any of those...
> > >
> > > 157.900
> > > 157.925
> > > 157.950
> > >
> > >
> > > On 14/01/2019 6:39 p.m., richard Pringle wrote:
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can anyone confirm any pager frequencys still in use in Canterbury?
> > >>
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> > >> month later we moved to the country so can't hear anything. Make me a
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> Firefrog.
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> What are the differences/areas between the three frequencies?
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> The 3 frequencies are working as I run a program PDW and I am getting
> pager messages across the country
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> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Neill Ellis <tgsnoopy at gmail.com>
> Date: 15/01/19  06:15  (GMT+12:00) To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz Subject:
> Re: [TheList] Canterbury Paging
> Since when? Not even that high in EIRP considering antenna gain. The
> original transmitters were NEC 100 Watt output. Later were 250W through
> big isolators sharing antenna, as they were 25 kHz off each other they
> lost around 3dB of power in the process (Aka output to aerial in the
> 100-125W region) Pretty sure the colinear aerials they used didn't have
> 10+ dBi gain. Just cause the licence says it's EIRP, doesn't mean it is it.
>
>
> Would be very interested if things have changed dramatically since I had
> my hands on that network.
>
>
> Pretty sure Spark shut it down & only 1 is running now, but owned by
> Fire & Emergency.
>
>
> Neill ZL1TAJ
>
>
> On 14/01/2019 10:50 PM, Radio Scanner wrote:
> > Most of the Telecom paging network run 1KW transmitters, id be
> > surprised if you can't receive any of those...
> >
> > 157.900
> > 157.925
> > 157.950
> >
> >
> > On 14/01/2019 6:39 p.m., richard Pringle wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can anyone confirm any pager frequencys still in use in Canterbury?
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> Hello
> >>
> >> Selling my Uniden Sds100. Its new hardly been used. Brought it but then
> a
> >> month later we moved to the country so can't hear anything. Make me a
> >> offer
> >> if I like it its yours. SERIOUS OFFERS ONLY. NO TIME WASTERS.
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> From: Radio Scanner <rs157950 at gmail.com>
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> Yep.
>
> Re the TX power, I can only go off what I have been told so I apologize
> if I got it wrong, however the signal strengths on my various receivers
> seem to confirm they are running quite high power.
>
> On 15/01/2019 9:18 a.m., firefrog wrote:
> > The 3 frequencies are working as I run a program PDW and I am getting
> > pager messages across the country
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Neill Ellis <tgsnoopy at gmail.com>
> > Date: 15/01/19 06:15 (GMT+12:00)
> > To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> > Subject: Re: [TheList] Canterbury Paging
> >
> > Since when? Not even that high in EIRP considering antenna gain. The
> > original transmitters were NEC 100 Watt output. Later were 250W through
> > big isolators sharing antenna, as they were 25 kHz off each other they
> > lost around 3dB of power in the process (Aka output to aerial in the
> > 100-125W region) Pretty sure the colinear aerials they used didn't have
> > 10+ dBi gain. Just cause the licence says it's EIRP, doesn't mean it
> > is it.
> >
> >
> > Would be very interested if things have changed dramatically since I had
> > my hands on that network.
> >
> >
> > Pretty sure Spark shut it down & only 1 is running now, but owned by
> > Fire & Emergency.
> >
> >
> > Neill ZL1TAJ
> >
> >
> > On 14/01/2019 10:50 PM, Radio Scanner wrote:
> > > Most of the Telecom paging network run 1KW transmitters, id be
> > > surprised if you can't receive any of those...
> > >
> > > 157.900
> > > 157.925
> > > 157.950
> > >
> > >
> > > On 14/01/2019 6:39 p.m., richard Pringle wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can anyone confirm any pager frequencys still in use in Canterbury?
> > >>
> > >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>
> > >> Selling my Uniden Sds100. Its new hardly been used. Brought it but
> > then a
> > >> month later we moved to the country so can't hear anything. Make me a
> > >> offer
> > >> if I like it its yours. SERIOUS OFFERS ONLY. NO TIME WASTERS.
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