[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 99, Issue 11

Fri Jan 12 12:11:35 AEDT 2018

It would be interesting to know if they actively police the use of scanners
on their services.
This is the first and only time I've seen a specific reference to people
not being allowed to use them almost anywhere.
I remember back before the police coms went digital here in Auckland I
occasionally got stopped (and friends with scanners did too)
by the police and they'd usually ask why I was listening to them - I'd
simply reply "to keep you buggers honest!" but they'd never say
I wasn't allowed to have it or use it etc or try to seize it.
It makes me wonder about the legality of someone like Kiwirail trying to
enforce a clause like that.
It's not as if the staff onboard the train, or the loco engineer or even
Train Control are discussing anything super sensitive or private.

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> I recently travelled from greymouth to christchurch with kiwirail. Was
> able to listen the whole way with the freqs listed on the national rail
> page. You will notice little post on the side of the rail stating 'radio
> channel 3' etc and which means need to change accordingly ,some even have
> the old signs with the actual freqs. I noticed the train staff each had
> radios to talk to each other about food/drink/rubbish but didnt bother
> finding that freq.
> Just be careful as scanners are not permitted on the ticket terms on
> conditions surprisingly if anyone going to do the same.
> Riche
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> Just curious, has the Railway channels / Kiwirail network gone digital .
>
> The Frequency 152.05000 seems to have digital data noise on, but I can
> kinda hear audio in the background.
> I live in Sandringham, and have a Discone up - could it be that I am just
> getting hammered by Sky Tower interference ??
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> Thanks in advance :)
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> Hello,
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> Just curious, I used to have one, but not sure if I still do.
> Could I please request an account to edit the wiki page?
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> National Train Control channels remain Analogue.
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> Most shunting portables were recently replaced with Tait TP9300's and re
> programmed (Digital ready but still running Analogue)
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> Depending on the sensitivity of your receiver, it's front end may be
> getting overloaded but the signals of Sky Tower.
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> Cheers
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> Brendan
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> Just curious, has the Railway channels / Kiwirail network gone digital .
>
> The Frequency 152.05000 seems to have digital data noise on, but I can
> kinda hear audio in the background.
> I live in Sandringham, and have a Discone up - could it be that I am just
> getting hammered by Sky Tower interference ??
>
> Thanks in advance :)
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> Have you also tried Ch 6, 7 & 8 rather than Ch 3?
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> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:13 AM
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> Subject: [TheList] Railway / Kiwirail / Anything on Tracks
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> Just curious, has the Railway channels / Kiwirail network gone digital .
>
> The Frequency 152.05000 seems to have digital data noise on, but I can
> kinda hear audio in the background.
> I live in Sandringham, and have a Discone up - could it be that I am just
> getting hammered by Sky Tower interference ??
>
> Thanks in advance :)
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> Hi Chris,
>
> Kiwirail have an extensive E band *analog**ue* narrow FM network all
> around the Auckland area.
>
> The best places to look are:
>
> 151.950 plus and minus 50 KHz in 12.5 KHz steps
>
> 152.050 plus and minus 50 KHz in 12.5 KHz steps.
>
> 152.350 plus and minus 50 KHz in 12.5 KHz steps.
>
> and 153.45625 Simplex. The simplex channel is commonly used by track
> gangs doing repairs and in rail yards.
>
> They also use CTCSS on the channels to keep the nasty crud from Skytower
> out. The popular tone are 173.8 Hz and 225.7 Hz
>
>
> Paul
> Wellington
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> On 12/01/18 10:12, Chris wrote:
> > Just curious, has the Railway channels / Kiwirail network gone digital .
> >
> > The Frequency 152.05000 seems to have digital data noise on, but I can
> > kinda hear audio in the background.
> > I live in Sandringham, and have a Discone up - could it be that I am
> > just getting hammered by Sky Tower interference ??
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> >
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> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, richard Pringle <uncledingo at live.com>
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> > I recently travelled from greymouth to christchurch with kiwirail. Was
> > able to listen the whole way with the freqs listed on the national rail
> > page. You will notice little post on the side of the rail stating 'radio
> > channel 3' etc and which means need to change accordingly ,some even have
> > the old signs with the actual freqs. I noticed the train staff each had
> > radios to talk to each other about food/drink/rubbish but didnt bother
> > finding that freq.
> > Just be careful as scanners are not permitted on the ticket terms on
> > conditions surprisingly if anyone going to do the same.
> > Riche
> >
> > Wow. That surprised me so I went digging.
>
> "The operation of radio scanners is prohibited on board Great Journeys of
> New Zealand services by anyone other than our staff."
>
> From
> https://www.greatjourneysofnz.co.nz/assets/20170620-Scenic-
> Rail-SUMMARY-TERMS-AND-CONDITIONS-OF-TRAVEL.pdf
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> Real item of curiosity now.. I wonder why this added to their T&C...
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