[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 97, Issue 27

Mon Nov 27 16:51:40 AEDT 2017

I'm only taking a tentative guess at 300 MHz.
Two reasons - one based on the length of the antenna - it's slightly longer
than a 450 MHz vertical whip
and appears to be about 1/4 wavelength at 300 megs.
Secondly, it would not be unreasonable for the government to use
frequencies in a band that was fairly
empty (I think I remember reading that the military have some channels in
this region).
I may be wildly off in my theory, hence why I threw it out there for anyone
else who may have
insider knowledge.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:00 PM, <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz> wrote:

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> From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com>
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> How do you figure 300Mhz? The length could be tuned for some other
> harmonic? (I've not heard of spectrum at 300Mhz being used for this sort of
> purpose)
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> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Radio Solutions <
> radio.restorations at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > RSM withhold a lot of information from SMART.
> > No Police operational frequencies are listed, nor are
> > Government/Diplomatic or some military frequencies.
> > From a recent search I know that some Fire frequencies don't show up,
> > these may be ones which are shared with Police.
> > Additionally, many Fire frequencies seem to be held by TeamTalk, rather
> > than Fire themselves.
> > This suggests that TT lease them (and the infrastructure) to Fire.
> >
> > On a related note, if you look at the ministerial limos, they all sport a
> > small whip antenna the length of which suggests it is for somewhere
> around
> > the 300 MHz region.
> > With no info available on SMART, does anyone have any inside knowledge on
> > what frequency/radios/platform they use?
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> Subject: Re: [TheList] Fire UHF incident ground communications
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> Area 22 is South Canterbury.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Shane Vickers <senavick2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > ESC band in this topic,  The original poster mentioned Area 22. Can I
> > confirm where this is?  No point getting excited if they are rolling out
> in
> > Wellington!
> > Auckland is using F Band high to assist with skip issues from Aussie many
> > moons ago..
> >
> > I am assuming Auckland is Area 22 as they have UHF systems in play..   I
> > am could be so wrong.....
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Mike Bailey <tahiini at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My apologies - no regular operational channels. Yes some HF and airband
> >> stuff is listed, but good on ya if you've heard anything operational on
> >> it... ever.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 09:36 Chris H <radiowiki at archnetnz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> When you say no police frequencies at all I beg to differ on that
> >>> statement:
> >>>
> >>> Here is just one search I did for Police - like page 2 of 5 or
> >>> something.
> >>> Previous Next
> >>> Licence ID [image: Descending] Licence No [image: Descending] Licensee
> [image:
> >>> Descending] Channel [image: Descending] Ref.Freq. (MHz) [image:
> >>> Descending] Location [image: Descending] Grid Reference [image:
> >>> Descending] Licence Type [image: Descending] Status
> >>> 19203 96116 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 TAURANGA POLICE
> STATION BD37
> >>> 795250 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 23895 97565 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 MT CARGILL CE17 101239
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 23895 97565 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 MT CARGILL CE17 101239
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 24086 125062 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 SUGARLOAF BX24 717721
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE
> >>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX5 118.100000 NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE
> >>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE
> >>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX41 119.000000 NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE
> >>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 STRATFORD POLICE
> STATION BJ30
> >>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 STRATFORD POLICE
> STATION BJ30
> >>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX5 118.100000 STRATFORD POLICE
> STATION BJ30
> >>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX41 119.000000 STRATFORD POLICE
> STATION BJ30
> >>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 30121 126153 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 MAUNU MT AX30 113444
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 30121 126153 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 MAUNU MT AX30 113444
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 HAWERA POLICE STATION
> BK30
> >>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000 HAWERA POLICE STATION
> BK30
> >>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX5 118.100000 HAWERA POLICE STATION
> BK30
> >>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX41 119.000000 HAWERA POLICE STATION
> BK30
> >>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 32224 135095 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 PAPAROA BT19 636042
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> 32311 97621 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000 AUCKLAND BA32 569204
> Aero
> >>> Base (Off Route) Current
> >>> Previous Next
> >>>
> >>> On 23/11/2017 09:07 AM, Mike Bailey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> RSM work in mysterious ways. You'll notice they don't list any Police
> >>> frequencies at all. I wonder if this falls under the same sort of
> category
> >>> - that its RSM approved (lets face it, Fire wouldn't go rogue on
> >>> frequencies), and its just not published for privacy and security of
> >>> communications?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 08:57 Grant Carroll <grant.carroll at xtra.co.nz>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm a bit confused as well.!
> >>>>
> >>>> On the RSM website the frequencies assigned to Fire and Emergency New
> >>>> Zealand between 492.21875MHz and 497.19375MHz are shown as "Land
> Mobile -
> >>>> mobile transmit" and the repeater frequencies don't start until
> 498.800MHz.
> >>>> So how are the lower frequencies being used as "portable frequencies"
> for
> >>>> incident ground communications?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Grunter1.
> >>>>
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