[TheList] Waikato AOS incident

Sun Aug 13 18:34:42 AEST 2017

Id also put money on the cops knowing about the list. Seriously though, 
are they really going to put any effort / resources into prosecuting 
someone for merely mentioning a couple of minor details from a job they 
attended the previous day? I doubt it.

On 13/08/2017 8:23 p.m., DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
> That depends on how you decode the law, it's illegal to rebroadcast 
> (which i determine to be restreaming audio)  talking about it without 
> giving specifics that isn't already in the media I feel is fair game.  
> IE The OP mentioned the red Commodore, which is already in the media, 
> in fact even the rego is in the media, and he sent this well after the 
> incident happened.
>
> Remember RadioWiki came from the ashes of the old NZScanners.. it 
> would be fair to say that everyone on this list has a scanner.  If you 
> have a scanner and have the ability to listen to the channels are you 
> really a third party? Food for thought, but a different topic.  
> Remember there's also the 10-1 list that hasn't really seen any action 
> lately, but it still exists, lots of information used to come across 
> on there that would only come from a Scanner/RT listener.  If there 
> were concerns, I'm sure people would be contacted offlist by the 
> relevant authorities.  We can almost put money on the fact that the 
> Police are aware the wiki/E-mail list and are probably monitoring it.  
> I'm sure if there was an issue with anything that's been said 
> previously they'd already have a chat.  I'd encourage them to do so.
>
> If we take your thinking, that we ARE all third parties, then I think 
> it's fair to say NZS/RW would have been turned off a long time ago.  
> All of the information from the Waikato pages, I've found from many 
> years of listening to all sorts of stuff, and being in the radio 
> industry myself.  Someone else has edited it with repeater site 
> locations, but that's all publicly available on RSM.  Admittedly the 
> capcodes aren't listed anywhere public, nor are the 13-tone selcall 
> tones that are on the Canterbury page.  So it's up for debate whether 
> we've all been breaching since....  I'm not sure when NZS started.... 
> 2002?  Something like that :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
> On 13/08/17 19:51, Denis Dawson wrote:
>>
>> There is when you share it to a 3^rd party…. Like here.
>>
>> *From:*TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] *On Behalf 
>> Of *DogSecurity - Richard
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
>> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
>>
>> Listening and streaming it are two very different things :) nothing 
>> illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
>>
>> ----------------------
>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and 
>> spelling.
>>
>> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy <phantomdb at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like you guys are 
>> re broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
>>
>> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard" 
>> <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio, although at 
>> one point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder if 
>> that's still the case - might explain why they weren't using the 
>> channel.   I'd say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS 
>> guys before he got geared up (but had his gear with him) could also 
>> have been DCC or an Alpha.  I know MOX is an AOS member.
>>
>> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the excitement.
>>
>> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
>>
>>     Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night, just
>>     after midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were
>>     chasing a late model Commodore for failing to stop after it was
>>     seen doing 90 in a 50 k area.
>>
>>     They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it
>>     stopped and the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be
>>     an AK-47 at them and started letting off rounds. The photos on
>>     the news sites show the squad car windscreen peppered with bullet
>>     holes.
>>
>>     During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having problems
>>     communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the senior
>>     cops said to another one that he was going to set up coms with
>>     Eagle on 'encrypted channel F11'.
>>
>>     It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not
>>     issued to everyone) which have digital capability.
>>
>>     It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling 'ten-ten'
>>     (and calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never
>>     hear it again.
>>
>>     It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio with all
>>     the North Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working
>>     properly.
>>
>>     In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one
>>     stage the Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue)
>>     and was unusable for about 5 minutes.
>>
>>     I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put their
>>     lives on the line every day in front of loose units with guns.
>>
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