[TheList] Waikato AOS incident

Sun Aug 13 18:23:32 AEST 2017

That depends on how you decode the law, it's illegal to rebroadcast 
(which i determine to be restreaming audio)  talking about it without 
giving specifics that isn't already in the media I feel is fair game.  
IE The OP mentioned the red Commodore, which is already in the media, in 
fact even the rego is in the media, and he sent this well after the 
incident happened.

Remember RadioWiki came from the ashes of the old NZScanners.. it would 
be fair to say that everyone on this list has a scanner.  If you have a 
scanner and have the ability to listen to the channels are you really a 
third party? Food for thought, but a different topic.  Remember there's 
also the 10-1 list that hasn't really seen any action lately, but it 
still exists, lots of information used to come across on there that 
would only come from a Scanner/RT listener.  If there were concerns, I'm 
sure people would be contacted offlist by the relevant authorities.  We 
can almost put money on the fact that the Police are aware the 
wiki/E-mail list and are probably monitoring it.  I'm sure if there was 
an issue with anything that's been said previously they'd already have a 
chat. I'd encourage them to do so.

If we take your thinking, that we ARE all third parties, then I think 
it's fair to say NZS/RW would have been turned off a long time ago.  All 
of the information from the Waikato pages, I've found from many years of 
listening to all sorts of stuff, and being in the radio industry 
myself.  Someone else has edited it with repeater site locations, but 
that's all publicly available on RSM. Admittedly the capcodes aren't 
listed anywhere public, nor are the 13-tone selcall tones that are on 
the Canterbury page.  So it's up for debate whether we've all been 
breaching since....  I'm not sure when NZS started.... 2002?  Something 
like that :)

Cheers,

Richard

On 13/08/17 19:51, Denis Dawson wrote:
>
> There is when you share it to a 3^rd party…. Like here.
>
> *From:*TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] *On Behalf Of 
> *DogSecurity - Richard
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
>
> Listening and streaming it are two very different things :) nothing 
> illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
>
> ----------------------
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and 
> spelling.
>
> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy <phantomdb at gmail.com 
> <mailto:phantomdb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like you guys are 
> re broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
>
> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard" 
> <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz <mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>> wrote:
>
> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio, although at 
> one point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder if 
> that's still the case - might explain why they weren't using the 
> channel.   I'd say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS guys 
> before he got geared up (but had his gear with him) could also have 
> been DCC or an Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.
>
> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the excitement.
>
> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
>
>     Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night, just
>     after midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were
>     chasing a late model Commodore for failing to stop after it was
>     seen doing 90 in a 50 k area.
>
>     They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it
>     stopped and the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be
>     an AK-47 at them and started letting off rounds. The photos on the
>     news sites show the squad car windscreen peppered with bullet holes.
>
>     During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having problems
>     communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the senior
>     cops said to another one that he was going to set up coms with
>     Eagle on 'encrypted channel F11'.
>
>     It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not
>     issued to everyone) which have digital capability.
>
>     It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling 'ten-ten'
>     (and calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never
>     hear it again.
>
>     It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio with all the
>     North Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working
>     properly.
>
>     In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one
>     stage the Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue)
>     and was unusable for about 5 minutes.
>
>     I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put their lives
>     on the line every day in front of loose units with guns.
>
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