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Probably trying to collapse it from the top down. Any telescopic
antenna is bound to break this way. Collapse it in sections starting
at the bottom and you will never have a problem with breaking them.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/06/2020 6:01 p.m., richard
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Seeing as nobody is updating the subject line, I wont
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As per the above antenna, I've had several of these and
they break very<br>
easily.......they're not worth getting for how weak they
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> Bleedy brilliant scanner aerial in metal telescopic
that works perfectly.<br>
><br>
> got some off a ham that lives in paraparamu but is
now sold out.<br>
><br>
> found the exact same on Aliexpress real cheap<br>
><br>
> RayC<br>
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> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 8:24 PM Mark Foster
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> > The link is worth a read, though I note Police
are no longer directly<br>
> > leading the work.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/672291/crown-infrastructure-takes-delivery-massive-new-emergency-comms-network/">https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/672291/crown-infrastructure-takes-delivery-massive-new-emergency-comms-network/</a><br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:20 PM Glen Grenfell
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> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Here a link to what I was reading
interesting stuff...<br>
> >><br>
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> >><br>
> >> Sent from my Samsung Note<br>
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> >>> Message: 1<br>
> >>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:18:39 +1200<br>
> >>> From: Radio Engineering
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:radio.restorations@gmail.com"><radio.restorations@gmail.com></a><br>
> >>> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
> >>> Subject: Re: [TheList] This is not good
news<br>
> >>> Message-ID:<br>
> >>>�������� <CAFp_d1=+<br>
> >>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:K9J_KGqENy9iK8S9t1J-vLy8BnvHTRMG1az0QaDwuA@mail.gmail.com">K9J_KGqENy9iK8S9t1J-vLy8BnvHTRMG1az0QaDwuA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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> >>> The new emergency services communication
network is already in the<br>
> >>> planning stages, it has been mentioned
here previously.<br>
> >>> Ambos and Fire will be on the network
which is all digital-based, but<br>
> >>> word<br>
> >>> is they will not be encrypted. There
really is no need for them to be.<br>
> >>> There's actually no need for Police to
be encrypted either, but that's<br>
> a<br>
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> >>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:59:16 +1200<br>
> >>> From: DogSecurity - Richard
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz"><richard@dogsecurity.co.nz></a><br>
> >>> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
> >>> Subject: Re: [TheList] This is not good
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> >>> Message-ID:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:7a9cfc5c-4b4a-2e34-ab05-c1ffc735c3c4@dogsecurity.co.nz"><7a9cfc5c-4b4a-2e34-ab05-c1ffc735c3c4@dogsecurity.co.nz></a><br>
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> >>><br>
> >>> Encryption itself isn't expensive at
all.? You use the same radios, in<br>
> >>> fact a lot of St John radios are already
TP9400 and TM9400s, new builds<br>
> >>> are all getting the new radios.? They
will need to purchase a trunking<br>
> >>> key per radio to use the new network,
but that can be added later on<br>
> >>> when the new codeplug is uploaded to the
radio.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> I haven't done encryption on any
Tx9400s, but for TM/TP93 and MotoTRBO<br>
> >>> radios, to encrypt is literally about 5
more seconds of work for the<br>
> >>> programmer.? Now if they use fancy high
end encryption, then you use a<br>
> >>> keyloader which is a hardware device.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Fire will potentially have a harder
time, due to the way the vehicle<br>
> >>> wiring is installed... The story I was
told is that it's cheaper for<br>
> >>> them to repair the T2000 based equipment
than to swap each vehicle over<br>
> >>> to TM8200s (changing from an 8200 to a
9400 is straightforward as you<br>
> >>> only need to replace the head and the
body - the remote cable in<br>
> between<br>
> >>> is the same)<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Reports I've read is that NGCC will be
RF, Cellular and satellite<br>
> based,<br>
> >>> however will need to be compatible with
the existing P25 network in use<br>
> >>> in Auckland, Wellington and
Christchurch.<br>
> >>> On 18/06/2020 13:53, Darryl Healy wrote:<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> >>> ><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > Could this be something like
terrestrial trunked radio or something<br>
> >>> > more IP based?<br>
> >>> > I doubt ambos and fire would go
down the expensive ENCRYPTED route,<br>
> >>> > sounds like a larger more secure
cellular mobile based system?<br>
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for some time, its will be worked<br>
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with police� with the long<br>
> term<br>
> >>> plan is to include the other services.
There is a document out there<br>
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> >>> ><br>
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> >>> more IP<br>
> >>> > based?<br>
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> >>> From: Darryl Healy
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