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Ok, thanks for the detailed explanation. Not a lot of point in
trying to support a 20+ year old system that will soon be
decommissioned.<br>
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I see this sort of thing in my day to day work and it pretty much
comes down to companies trying to make a extra buck because
something "looks easy". If everyone stuck to their own industry not
only would it keep people in employment, it would also ensure things
were done right the first time so the customer actually gets what
they are paying for. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/04/2020 11:58 p.m., DogSecurity -
Richard wrote:<br>
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Apologies, I changed subject slightly, and I wasn't very clear
other than in my head lol... Trbos will run on the 1327
networks... Not on the new tier3 system. On 1327, the DM4000s
would go a little deaf on extenders but would work fine on
standard repeaters . From what I was told, the issue was that the
4000 would see the standard control channel info, but disregard it
because the radio knew that it was sitting on an extender (IE the
extender was sending out CC info of the master) Motorola tried
fixing it via the team in the Philippines but they disbanded them
not long after releasing a fix, because we're the only country
still using a 1327 based system. <br>
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For the DM3000 and 4000s on tier3. A lot of the technical staff
left, also Motorola and Tait do GPS differently so I guess the
problem was around that somewhere.<br>
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They lost the dealership because they weren't buying enough
equipment I think (to stay a dealer, you have to meet targets)
also other dealers were getting a little testy because Vital were
trying to sell equipment directly to dealers customers, or
customers would go directly to them for equipment, ie we had one
buying cheap t2040s from vital and getting a local autosparky (or
themselves) who don't know the difference between a CB and a uhf
aerial, then get a dealer in to fix the absolute shambles, or when
the customer moaned, Vital would get a dealer in to fix ... Which
would eventually lead to basically a whole new install being done.
I hated fixing someone elses shitty install. Vital probably should
have stayed an airtime provider to keep everyone happy.
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punctuation and spelling. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 April 2020 10:45:29 pm NZST, Radio
Scanner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rs157950@gmail.com"><rs157950@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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padding-left: 1ex;"> The tone is slightly different I have
found. See what you reckon with the sites in your area, to me
ActionNet seems to be "faster".<br>
<br>
I personally know of a bunch of trbo radios that have run on
Fleetlink for a number of years, is this a new rule?<br>
<br>
How did they lose their dealer status...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/04/2020 10:18 p.m.,
DogSecurity - Richard wrote:<br>
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My understanding is they're basically the same system, so
I'd be surprised if they sound different. I know they aren't
interchangeable (Ie you can't interfleet between Fleetlink
and ActionNet.<br>
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I believe one is a proper MPT1327 system, the other is a
slightly modified version of the protocol that was ex Post
Office before being acquired by TeamTalk. Could be wrong,
but I seem to recall that was the answer when I asked.<br>
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For peoples interest, it appears there was some issues with
MotoTRBOs being on the network (TT now Vital went with Tait)
and some features won't work... Last I heard is they'd flat
out said no trbo being on the network, but given they've
directly sold 4000 series radios to some of their customers
before they lost their dealer status, they're probably going
to have to relax on that rule. <br>
Richard W<br>
Patrol Supervisor <br>
Armourguard Waikato
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 April 2020 12:51:29 pm NZST,
Radio Scanner <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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padding-left: 1ex;"> While we are on the subject, can
someone please explain why there is two different
MPT1327 networks? I do notice the control channels sound
different on an analog scanner but no idea why that is.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/04/2020 10:41 a.m.,
Brendan Sheehy wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Does anyone know if or when the
MPT1327 network will be fully replaced with the
T3 DMR network?</div>
<div dir="auto">Obviously T3 is out there and
busier in some places than others.</div>
<div dir="auto">Down in Timaru we have a busy MPT
and a silent T3, I've only heard one
transmission on T3 over the last week.</div>
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<div dir="auto">It's not easy to map out silent
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