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Highly likely to be encrypted anyway id think. One idea is that they
are using some of the ESC band channels as A 1/4 wave for
~250-300mhz is also a 1/2 wave at 500-600mhz. Would be cool if
someone could do close call on their scanner next time they see one,
might get lucky.<br>
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<div>I'm only taking a tentative guess at 300 MHz.<br>
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Two reasons - one based on the length of the antenna -
it's slightly longer than a 450 MHz vertical whip<br>
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and appears to be about 1/4 wavelength at 300 megs.<br>
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Secondly, it would not be unreasonable for the government
to use frequencies in a band that was fairly<br>
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empty (I think I remember reading that the military have
some channels in this region).<br>
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I may be wildly off in my theory, hence why I threw it out
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How do you figure 300Mhz? The length could be tuned for some
other<br>
harmonic? (I've not heard of spectrum at 300Mhz being used
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> RSM withhold a lot of information from SMART.<br>
> No Police operational frequencies are listed, nor are<br>
> Government/Diplomatic or some military frequencies.<br>
> From a recent search I know that some Fire frequencies
don't show up,<br>
> these may be ones which are shared with Police.<br>
> Additionally, many Fire frequencies seem to be held by
TeamTalk, rather<br>
> than Fire themselves.<br>
> This suggests that TT lease them (and the
infrastructure) to Fire.<br>
><br>
> On a related note, if you look at the ministerial
limos, they all sport a<br>
> small whip antenna the length of which suggests it is
for somewhere around<br>
> the 300 MHz region.<br>
> With no info available on SMART, does anyone have any
inside knowledge on<br>
> what frequency/radios/platform they use?<br>
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Area 22 is South Canterbury.<br>
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On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Shane Vickers <<a
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> ESC band in this topic,� The original poster mentioned
Area 22. Can I<br>
> confirm where this is?� No point getting excited if
they are rolling out in<br>
> Wellington!<br>
> Auckland is using F Band high to assist with skip
issues from Aussie many<br>
> moons ago..<br>
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> I am assuming Auckland is Area 22 as they have UHF
systems in play..� �I<br>
> am could be so wrong.....<br>
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> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Mike Bailey <<a
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>> My apologies - no regular operational channels. Yes
some HF and airband<br>
>> stuff is listed, but good on ya if you've heard
anything operational on<br>
>> it... ever.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 09:36 Chris H <<a
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>>> When you say no police frequencies at all I beg
to differ on that<br>
>>> statement:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here is just one search I did for Police - like
page 2 of 5 or<br>
>>> something.<br>
>>> Previous Next<br>
>>> Licence ID [image: Descending] Licence No
[image: Descending] Licensee [image:<br>
>>> Descending] Channel [image: Descending]
Ref.Freq. (MHz) [image:<br>
>>> Descending] Location [image: Descending] Grid
Reference [image:<br>
>>> Descending] Licence Type [image: Descending]
Status<br>
>>> 19203 96116 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000
TAURANGA POLICE STATION BD37<br>
>>> 795250 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 23895 97565 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000
MT CARGILL CE17 101239 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 23895 97565 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000
MT CARGILL CE17 101239 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 24086 125062 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45
119.100000 SUGARLOAF BX24 717721 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000
NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE<br>
>>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route)
Current<br>
>>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX5 118.100000
NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE<br>
>>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route)
Current<br>
>>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000
NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE<br>
>>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route)
Current<br>
>>> 28430 92397 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX41 119.000000
NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE<br>
>>> STATION BH29 927760 Aero Base (Off Route)
Current<br>
>>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000
STRATFORD POLICE STATION BJ30<br>
>>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000
STRATFORD POLICE STATION BJ30<br>
>>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX5 118.100000
STRATFORD POLICE STATION BJ30<br>
>>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 29066 92399 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX41 119.000000
STRATFORD POLICE STATION BJ30<br>
>>> 105448 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 30121 126153 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45
119.100000 MAUNU MT AX30 113444 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 30121 126153 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52
131.300000 MAUNU MT AX30 113444 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000
HAWERA POLICE STATION BK30<br>
>>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX45 119.100000
HAWERA POLICE STATION BK30<br>
>>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX5 118.100000
HAWERA POLICE STATION BK30<br>
>>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 31640 92401 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ACX41 119.000000
HAWERA POLICE STATION BK30<br>
>>> 103172 Aero Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 32224 135095 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52
131.300000 PAPAROA BT19 636042 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> 32311 97621 NEW ZEALAND POLICE ARX52 131.300000
AUCKLAND BA32 569204 Aero<br>
>>> Base (Off Route) Current<br>
>>> Previous Next<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 23/11/2017 09:07 AM, Mike Bailey wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> RSM work in mysterious ways. You'll notice they
don't list any Police<br>
>>> frequencies at all. I wonder if this falls
under the same sort of category<br>
>>> - that its RSM approved (lets face it, Fire
wouldn't go rogue on<br>
>>> frequencies), and its just not published for
privacy and security of<br>
>>> communications?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 08:57 Grant Carroll <<a
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>>><br>
>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm a bit confused as well.!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On the RSM website the frequencies assigned
to Fire and Emergency New<br>
>>>> Zealand between 492.21875MHz and
497.19375MHz are shown as "Land Mobile -<br>
>>>> mobile transmit" and the repeater
frequencies don't start until 498.800MHz.<br>
>>>> So how are the lower frequencies being used
as "portable frequencies" for<br>
>>>> incident ground communications?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Cheers.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Grunter1.<br>
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