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                                        As I recall the couldn't use CTCSS or DCS as their Selcall systems couldn't work..<div><br></div><div><br><div class="mb_sig"></div>
                                        
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                        <p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">On 23/11/2017 9:07:34 p.m., DogSecurity - Richard <richard@dogsecurity.co.nz> wrote:</p>
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">Like CTCSS, SDR is probably a bit overwhelming for some scanner users, if they can use it, then they're smart enough enough to find tx frequencies etc.<br>
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RadioScanner - After coming up 4 years in the industry, I definitely agree security through obscurity isn't going to work. It just weeds out the ones without knowledge.  Much like car alarms don't stop the car getting stolen, just stops opportunist thieves.<br>
 Also the cost of going P25 (and probably encrypted is astronomical for the police (and therefore also fire)) Nationwide makes it a pipe dream.  Some of the sites are solar only, I've heard, and P25 is power hungry.  So we're pretty safe for now :D<br>
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Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and spelling. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 November 2017 7:57:23 PM NZDT, Mike Bailey <tahiini@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left: 1ex;min-width: 500px">
<div dir="ltr">...or about two minutes with SDR#. CTCSS is a solution to spurious signals from other sites or countries, not to intruders.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 19:48 DogSecurity - Richard <<a href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz">richard@dogsecurity.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;min-width: 500px">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">I partly agree, for most people with scanners, in my experience haven't even heard of CTCSS, so as long as it's not published on say RadioWiki and the likes, would prevent most people doing that. <br>
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 Those that know about CTCSS obviously would likely be able to work out what tone is in use, and therefore probably be able to also work out the transmit frequency with a lot of patience :) <br></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and spelling. <br><br></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 November 2017 7:35:31 PM NZDT, Radio Scanner <<a href="mailto:rs157950@gmail.com" target="_blank">rs157950@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left: 1ex;min-width: 500px">

    Definitely poor design. CTCSS tones would obviously help with
    spurious signals triggering the repeater but it wouldnt stop
    dickheads with a Baofeng for long at all. Atleast the radio can
    still be used at the same time its being mucked with.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="m_3944437904620467067moz-cite-prefix">On 23/11/2017 1:03 p.m., Brendan Sheehy
      wrote:<br>
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        We use to get it bad down south untill tx frequency was changed
        on one of the vtg channels.<br>
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      <div id="m_3944437904620467067divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="color: #000000;font-family: Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
          TheList <a class="m_3944437904620467067moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz" target="_blank"><thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz></a> on behalf of
          DogSecurity - Richard <a class="m_3944437904620467067moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:richard@dogsecurity.co.nz" target="_blank"><richard@dogsecurity.co.nz></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:50:21 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="m_3944437904620467067moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz" target="_blank">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TheList] Fire UHF incident ground
          communications</span>
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      <div>Just on the skip issue you mentioned.. The problem with the
        skip/ducting on ESA (I'd put money on that being the offender,
        rather than UHF) is that the police (and fire as they're in bed
        together) don't use CTCSS tones, so the repeater receiver
        naturally opens up to everything. <br>
        <br>
        Unfortunately that's poor initial design on Police part, to add
        tones after the fact basically can't happen logistically...
        every RT and repeater needs to be reprogrammed at the same time
        to avoid downtime. Doing it could be done slowly, add the tones
        to RT TX first, then add the tone to the RX of the repeater.
        Obviously you'd have to see if there's a tone on the Aussie TX
        and not reuse that here (that'd really be RSMs domain) Would
        also help with that clown down Levin ways with his crappy
        Baofeng or whatever ham radio that he shouldn't have,
        transmitting on the police channels. <br>
        <br>
        Over the last few years it seems to be less of an issue on
        Ham1/Waikato Rural at least as more Aussie emergency services
        are going UHF/digital etc. But also remember 76megs is more
        susceptible to noise than VHF/UHF frequencies. Also helping the
        fact of people moving away from ESA/A-band is Tait is the only
        manufacturer making that equipment anymore.
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        Richard <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 23 November 2017 10:33:16 AM NZDT,
          Shane Vickers <a class="m_3944437904620467067moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:senavick2@gmail.com" target="_blank"><senavick2@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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                <div>ESC band in this topic,  The original poster
                  mentioned Area 22. Can I confirm where this is?  No
                  point getting excited if they are rolling out in
                  Wellington!<br>
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                Auckland is using F Band high to assist with skip issues
                from Aussie many moons ago..<br>
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              I am assuming Auckland is Area 22 as they have UHF systems
              in play..   I am could be so wrong.....<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:45 AM,
                Mike Bailey <span dir="ltr">
                  <<a href="mailto:tahiini@gmail.com" target="_blank">tahiini@gmail.com</a>></span>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">My apologies - no regular operational
                    channels. Yes some HF and airband stuff is listed,
                    but good on ya if you've heard anything operational
                    on it... ever.</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr">On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 09:36
                          Chris H <<a href="mailto:radiowiki@archnetnz.com" target="_blank">radiowiki@archnetnz.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <p>When you say no police frequencies at all
                              I beg to differ on that statement: </p>
                            <p>Here is just one search I did for Police
                              - like page 2 of 5 or something. </p>
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                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>TAURANGA POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BD37 795250</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
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                                  <td>97565</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX45</td>
                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>MT CARGILL</td>
                                  <td>CE17 101239</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td>97565</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>MT CARGILL</td>
                                  <td>CE17 101239</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td>125062</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX45</td>
                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>SUGARLOAF</td>
                                  <td>BX24 717721</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td>92397</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX45</td>
                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BH29 927760</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8964" title="28430">28430</a></td>
                                  <td>92397</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX5</td>
                                  <td>118.100000</td>
                                  <td>NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BH29 927760</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8944" title="28430">28430</a></td>
                                  <td>92397</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BH29 927760</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8924" title="28430">28430</a></td>
                                  <td>92397</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX41</td>
                                  <td>119.000000</td>
                                  <td>NEW PLYMOUTH POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BH29 927760</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8904" title="29066">29066</a></td>
                                  <td>92399</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX45</td>
                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>STRATFORD POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BJ30 105448</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listEvenRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8884" title="29066">29066</a></td>
                                  <td>92399</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>STRATFORD POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BJ30 105448</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listOddRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8864" title="29066">29066</a></td>
                                  <td>92399</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX5</td>
                                  <td>118.100000</td>
                                  <td>STRATFORD POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BJ30 105448</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8844" title="29066">29066</a></td>
                                  <td>92399</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX41</td>
                                  <td>119.000000</td>
                                  <td>STRATFORD POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BJ30 105448</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8824" title="30121">30121</a></td>
                                  <td>126153</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX45</td>
                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>MAUNU MT</td>
                                  <td>AX30 113444</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
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                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8804" title="30121">30121</a></td>
                                  <td>126153</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>MAUNU MT</td>
                                  <td>AX30 113444</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listOddRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8784" title="31640">31640</a></td>
                                  <td>92401</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>HAWERA POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BK30 103172</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listEvenRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8764" title="31640">31640</a></td>
                                  <td>92401</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX45</td>
                                  <td>119.100000</td>
                                  <td>HAWERA POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BK30 103172</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listOddRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8744" title="31640">31640</a></td>
                                  <td>92401</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX5</td>
                                  <td>118.100000</td>
                                  <td>HAWERA POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BK30 103172</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listEvenRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8724" title="31640">31640</a></td>
                                  <td>92401</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ACX41</td>
                                  <td>119.000000</td>
                                  <td>HAWERA POLICE STATION</td>
                                  <td>BK30 103172</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr class="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002listOddRow">
                                  <td><a id="m_3944437904620467067m_8852443264000220782m_6426714608411204002S_8704" title="32224">32224</a></td>
                                  <td>135095</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>PAPAROA</td>
                                  <td>BT19 636042</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
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                                  <td>97621</td>
                                  <td>NEW ZEALAND POLICE</td>
                                  <td>ARX52</td>
                                  <td>131.300000</td>
                                  <td>AUCKLAND</td>
                                  <td>BA32 569204</td>
                                  <td>Aero Base (Off Route)</td>
                                  <td>Current</td>
                                </tr>
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                            <p>On 23/11/2017 09:07 AM, Mike Bailey
                              wrote:</p>
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                              <div dir="ltr">RSM work in mysterious
                                ways. You'll notice they don't list any
                                Police frequencies at all. I wonder if
                                this falls under the same sort of
                                category - that its RSM approved (lets
                                face it, Fire wouldn't go rogue on
                                frequencies), and its just not published
                                for privacy and security of
                                communications?
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                                    <div dir="ltr">On Thu, 23 Nov 2017
                                      at 08:57 Grant Carroll <<a href="mailto:grant.carroll@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_3944437904620467067moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:grant.carroll@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank">grant.carroll@xtra.co.nz</a>>
                                      wrote:</div>
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                                          <p>Hi all,</p>
                                          <p>I'm a bit confused as
                                            well.!</p>
                                          <p>On the RSM website the
                                            frequencies assigned to Fire
                                            and Emergency New Zealand
                                            between 492.21875MHz and
                                            497.19375MHz are shown as
                                            "Land Mobile - mobile
                                            transmit" and the repeater
                                            frequencies don't start
                                            until 498.800MHz. So how are
                                            the lower frequencies being
                                            used as "portable
                                            frequencies" for incident
                                            ground communications?</p>
                                          <p>Cheers.</p>
                                          <p>Grunter1.</p>
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