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<p>Unfortunately, third party or not, disclosing or acting upon the contents of a radio communication not intended for you is an offence (Radio Communications Act 1989, s 133A). However, there's obviously a huge amount of discretion that goes on here. Otherwise we'd be locking up journalists left, right and centre. In fact, I recall a chap with a scanner helped Police catch an escaped prisoner a few years back. Needless to say he got a pat on the back as opposed to a summons.</p>
<p>We've also got to remember that the statute was passed in 1989, and although it is still enforceable law, attitudes have changed since then.</p>
<p>OP's post didn't contain anything that isn't already in the media, nor anything that wouldn't be subject to an Official Information Act request. The only time you'd land yourself in it would be if you released sensitive information, such as the name of a deceased person or details that would compromise an ongoing operation.</p>
<p>I think it's always important to have the law in the back of our minds before publishing what we hear, but I think for the most part, common sense will prevail.</p>
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<p>On 13/08/2017 20:34, Radio Scanner wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta ignored -->Id also put money on the cops knowing about the list. Seriously though, are they really going to put any effort / resources into prosecuting someone for merely mentioning a couple of minor details from a job they attended the previous day? I doubt it.<br /><br />
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<blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"><!-- meta ignored --> That depends on how you decode the law, it's illegal to rebroadcast (which i determine to be restreaming audio) talking about it without giving specifics that isn't already in the media I feel is fair game. IE The OP mentioned the red Commodore, which is already in the media, in fact even the rego is in the media, and he sent this well after the incident happened. <br /><br /> Remember RadioWiki came from the ashes of the old NZScanners.. it would be fair to say that everyone on this list has a scanner. If you have a scanner and have the ability to listen to the channels are you really a third party? Food for thought, but a different topic. Remember there's also the 10-1 list that hasn't really seen any action lately, but it still exists, lots of information used to come across on there that would only come from a Scanner/RT listener. If there were concerns, I'm sure people would be contacted offlist by the relevant authorities. We can almost put money on the fact that the Police are aware the wiki/E-mail list and are probably monitoring it. I'm sure if there was an issue with anything that's been said previously they'd already have a chat. I'd encourage them to do so.<br /><br /> If we take your thinking, that we ARE all third parties, then I think it's fair to say NZS/RW would have been turned off a long time ago. All of the information from the Waikato pages, I've found from many years of listening to all sorts of stuff, and being in the radio industry myself. Someone else has edited it with repeater site locations, but that's all publicly available on RSM. Admittedly the capcodes aren't listed anywhere public, nor are the 13-tone selcall tones that are on the Canterbury page. So it's up for debate whether we've all been breaching since.... I'm not sure when NZS started.... 2002? Something like that :)<br /><br /> Cheers,<br /><br /> Richard<br /><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1f497d;">There is when you share it to a 3<sup>rd</sup> party…. Like here.<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;"> TheList [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz">mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>DogSecurity - Richard<br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17<br /><strong>To:</strong> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident<!-- o ignored --></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Listening and streaming it are two very different things :) nothing illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves<br /><br /> ----------------------<br /> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and spelling. <!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio, although at one point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder if that's still the case - might explain why they weren't using the channel. I'd say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS guys before he got geared up (but had his gear with him) could also have been DCC or an Alpha. I know MOX is an AOS member.<br /><br /> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the excitement.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night, just after midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were chasing a late model Commodore for failing to stop after it was seen doing 90 in a 50 k area.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it stopped and the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an AK-47 at them and started letting off rounds. The photos on the news sites show the squad car windscreen peppered with bullet holes.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having problems communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the senior cops said to another one that he was going to set up coms with Eagle on 'encrypted channel F11'.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling 'ten-ten' (and calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never hear it again.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one stage the Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue) and was unusable for about 5 minutes.<!-- o ignored --></p>
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