<p>Is P25 narrow bandwidth? Trunking allows more groups to use less spectrum allocation, ambo could use the allocated channels for police and no one would be<br />the wiser. Control Channel is not picky who it allocates talk channels too.</p>
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<p>Has coverage improved purely because its a digital signal? Or because the bands have changed or more equipment is installed (larger network etc)? Is it like comparing AMPS to GSM coverage wise?<br /></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Mike Bailey <span><<a href="mailto:tahiini@gmail.com">tahiini@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div class="im">"So what are the advantages of P25 over analog if secure communication is not an issue? "<br /><br /></div>
Coverage is improved. Also, on the fringe areas, you either have full coverage, or none at all - not the sometimes scrambled guff we can hear now and then. Also, the radio itself can tell you if you're in coverage or not.
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<blockquote>Perhaps the confusion is because the police are using ESB band with P25 trunking as the replacement for ESA... Which is normally (and probably still) where ambo operates.
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<div>Can anyone confirm that current digital scanners are still not able to follow tait P25 trunked? From memory it was to do with the data rate of the control channel (could be wrong). I could get unencrypted voice with my uniden digital but was never able to follow the conversation. Thats why I started looking at software radio etc.
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<div>It is ironic that the P25 system came into being because of a need for radio systems and services to inter-communicate, and now it is what separates them. Some will argue that P25 radios can communicate with the old analog systems (mixed mode), but I've been told this is not possible with a trunked system. (again, could be wrong)</div>
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<div>So what are the advantages of P25 over analog if secure communication is not an issue? </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Neill Ellis <span><<a href="mailto:tgsnoopy@gmail.com">tgsnoopy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Grunter,<br /><br /> I think you might be on to something. I'm pretty sure the media would have let us know if Ambo's were trialling or had gone secure digital.<br /><br /> Regards,<br /><br /> Neill.
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<div>Hello,<br /> I am still listening to ambos on the same frequencies in the ESB band they have been on for ages. This is on an analogue scanner and my digital scanner with no "P25" coming up to suggest the transmissions are digital and obviously if I can hear them on an analogue scanner they aren't. Am I missing something here? Are they being simulcast on analogue and new digital frequencies for now or is their going digital just a vicious rumour?<br /> Cheers guys.<br /> Grunter1.<br /><br /><br /></div>
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