<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Do we have an administrator on this to remove this idiot from what was a good list but has been stuff up by some radical wanting to course trouble. I suggest he goes join wikileaks<br><div><div>On 7/12/2010, at 1:12 PM, 11 StatusTenZero wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Ah Mike,<br>
<br>
How 'lucky' you are to rub shoulders with the pigs, and get your
little pat on the head.<br>
<br>
If we had a proper police service, we wouldn't need doo-gooders like
you pretending to be police-people, we'd have ACTUAL police-people
doing their job themselves not clowns on some little ego trip.<br>
<br>
You're just crap policing on the cheap mate. As seen here.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwYxkZ9jTvk&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwYxkZ9jTvk&feature=related</a><br>
<br>
<br>
>Grow up.<br>
So, to be so naive, I'm guessing you're pretty old right? You
brought it up.<br>
<br>
I guess you don't remember what FREE SPEECH is huh? And, how you're
there to protect it.<br>
<br>
STZ.<br>
<br>
On 7/12/2010 11:08 AM, Mike Bailey wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4CFD5EE0.3040900@gmail.com" type="cite">
kiwi56,<br>
<br>
As someone who works with the Police regularly (Community Patrol),
I feel your calling of the Police "pigs" and "arseholes" tends to
rub off on me as well. <br>
<br>
With an attitude like that, its no wonder it seems you get
targeted.<br>
<br>
Grow up.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On 7/12/2010 10:51, kiwi56 wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4CFD5AC7.3020305@paradise.net.nz" type="cite">
Steve <br>
<br>
I totally agree with everything you say. Before they went
digital you would hear the comms operator say if there is any
danger blah blah you are to end pursuit. Wonder if they are
still saying that ha not likely.<br>
Most of the pigs out there are young cowboys who think they can
be right arseholes to anyone they choose. <br>
Give them a patrol car and they think they can do what they
like.<br>
Here is another good thing they say we are not revenue
collecting what a load of bullshit I actually had a cop admit
that he had been told by his sergeant to go to a certain
intersection on outskirts of queenstown and book anyone who went
through the stop sign.<br>
I pulled up at this intersection and stopped but my wheels
rolled over the line of the stop markings so what happened the
young arsehole pulled me up and booked me $250 and then I find
out after I paid it that he had no right to book me for a start
as I had stopped at the intersection and plus the fine should
have only been $150<br>
Some of the cops that are in wellington are nothing but
smart-arsed little pricks who think because they have a uniform
they can be arseholes.<br>
As for police chases back when we could listen in they knew they
could not get away with a lot because of people listening but no
they are not answerable to us so they can do what they like and
they do do what they like.<br>
I actually think it is the worst thing they could do was go
digital but never mind it has happened now.<br>
<br>
Getting back to scanning I see telescum are having problems with
the paging system for the fire service.<br>
My son is a volunteer at Wainuiomata and he was saying that
their pagers went off the other night but only some of them got
the page and this has been happening quite regularly so they
have now gone back to sounding the siren for any calls at any
time. <br>
Last night Kilbirnie had the same problem so it is about time
that someone got up telecom and told them to fix their systems<br>
.<br>
They are a pack of bullshitters as their add for XT with their
CEO is down in Glenorchy and he says ah buggar and then says
just kidding that the network works down there well it does not.
I actually worked on the network when it was being tested and we
tested right up to the end of the lake and then across the other
side down to the route-burn track and there was never any signal
up there and there still is not.<br>
The reason why their network failed earlier in the year was not
Alcatel fault but Telecoms as they were told that they needed to
test the network more and that they need more sites etc and they
took no notice and then when it fell over they blamed Alcatel.<br>
Bloody typical <br>
<br>
kiwi56<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/7/2010 10:25 AM, Steve Austin wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:AANLkTinoTxxyj+2DLfqqLSi-62fXE2n5mKrp9HLAgrHT@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Andy,<br>
<br>
Oh Really? then why I ask was the press release delayed? Why
did it not contain the full details within the average time of
the incident that other serious accidents are reported by the
police?<br>
I point out that the 1st crash was the evening before....NO
Press release about it. The second crash was approximately
12:30 and the press release about both crashes was sent out at
17:59 in time to miss the 6pm news how unusual. Spin I say eh?
Tell them only what they need to know and control release it.
Fortunately for the media the ambulance and fire were called
so they got their details from them. Why is there pressure
from the police quarters to encrypt their systems as well ?
Not just digital but encrypted.<br>
<br>
Why did I witnessed (In 2006) 7 police cars involved in
following an offender when police policy is for two on
numerous occasions. Why was I stopped by police whilst enroute
to the end result of a pursuit incident where 5 police cars
were damaged.I wonder who blatantly blurted over the radio
"stop that media guy from getting to the scene" so I was
stopped and checked by police on a random stop at 3am in the
morning on a deserted suburban street that took about 15
minutes where they, rightfully I might add, checked my
licence, tyres, warrant, registration label, breath tested,
checked my lights and then I waited while the details came
back to them on the radio which were incidently delivered
quite fast but the officers chose to sit in their car for 5
minutes and radio back to the incident to make sure that the
scene was cleared.......I then got a fantastic escort to the
crash scene by no other than the NZ police making sure that I
belted up, signalled and did not exceed 50KM/H.<br>
The above incident is only one of many...but I don't want to
bore people with my stories.<br>
<br>
Yeah I know I broke the law acting on Information arrest me.
The legislation is now a lot tougher if you actively try to,
or in fact successfully decrypt the radio traffic its jail
jail jail.<br>
<br>
Of course I'm just ranting now its my word against theirs and
we know the police never cover up or bend the truth, so I'll
be the one that's fabricating the whole incident. I'm not
defending the media either they can twist things as well but
they are more under public scrutiny than authorities that are
be behind encryption and legislation.<br>
<br>
Sorry but I just cant accept that the IPCA gets ALL the
facts................all the time.<br>
Oh yeah and my favourite Police Officer quote that's used when
they don't want the media there........"You'll be arrested for
obstruction"........ As you stand in a public place outside a
cordon while the general public are walking through. Don't
believe me.................It all on
video...................numerous times.............Especially
the Halswell Road Christchurch fatal police chase. I have seen
the video with my own eyes. I prefer to believe what I see and
not what I'm told thanks.<br>
<br>
I think we will never agree because as your callsign infers
you are a ZL1 region "cop" and I'm (maybe) the Media. Or an
avid scanner listener.<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Andy
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:zl1cop@qsl.net" target="_blank">zl1cop@qsl.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">The IPCA will release the full details
once they have investigated all the<br>
facts, not just those that make a good headline. If you
are sufficiently<br>
interested you won't mind waiting a while in order to get
the real story.<br>
Despite claims to the contrary it is not the role of the
media to keep<br>
anyone "in check".<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Andy<br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [TheList] Listening to other stuff.<br>
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Overnight police chase in Auckland obviously not heard
on the scanners (No<br>
surprises) Strangely enough no media release and only
witnesses say the<br>
police were involved. Phone calls to police were very
vague on the full<br>
details.<br>
Welcome to the new world of spin and tell them only
what they need to<br>
hear.......No more Media earwigging to keep various
organisations in check.<br>
<br>
I welcome your comments :-)<br>
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Steve<br>
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