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Steve <br>
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I totally agree with everything you say. Before they went digital
you would hear the comms operator say if there is any danger blah
blah you are to end pursuit. Wonder if they are still saying that ha
not likely.<br>
Most of the pigs out there are young cowboys who think they can be
right arseholes to anyone they choose. <br>
Give them a patrol car and they think they can do what they like.<br>
Here is another good thing they say we are not revenue collecting
what a load of bullshit I actually had a cop admit that he had been
told by his sergeant to go to a certain intersection on outskirts of
queenstown and book anyone who went through the stop sign.<br>
I pulled up at this intersection and stopped but my wheels rolled
over the line of the stop markings so what happened the young
arsehole pulled me up and booked me $250 and then I find out after I
paid it that he had no right to book me for a start as I had stopped
at the intersection and plus the fine should have only been $150<br>
Some of the cops that are in wellington are nothing but smart-arsed
little pricks who think because they have a uniform they can be
arseholes.<br>
As for police chases back when we could listen in they knew they
could not get away with a lot because of people listening but no
they are not answerable to us so they can do what they like and they
do do what they like.<br>
I actually think it is the worst thing they could do was go digital
but never mind it has happened now.<br>
<br>
Getting back to scanning I see telescum are having problems with the
paging system for the fire service.<br>
My son is a volunteer at Wainuiomata and he was saying that their
pagers went off the other night but only some of them got the page
and this has been happening quite regularly so they have now gone
back to sounding the siren for any calls at any time. <br>
Last night Kilbirnie had the same problem so it is about time that
someone got up telecom and told them to fix their systems<br>
.<br>
They are a pack of bullshitters as their add for XT with their CEO
is down in Glenorchy and he says ah buggar and then says just
kidding that the network works down there well it does not. I
actually worked on the network when it was being tested and we
tested right up to the end of the lake and then across the other
side down to the route-burn track and there was never any signal up
there and there still is not.<br>
The reason why their network failed earlier in the year was not
Alcatel fault but Telecoms as they were told that they needed to
test the network more and that they need more sites etc and they
took no notice and then when it fell over they blamed Alcatel.<br>
Bloody typical <br>
<br>
kiwi56<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/7/2010 10:25 AM, Steve Austin wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTinoTxxyj+2DLfqqLSi-62fXE2n5mKrp9HLAgrHT@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Andy,<br>
<br>
Oh Really? then why I ask was the press release delayed? Why did
it not contain the full details within the average time of the
incident that other serious accidents are reported by the police?<br>
I point out that the 1st crash was the evening before....NO Press
release about it. The second crash was approximately 12:30 and the
press release about both crashes was sent out at 17:59 in time to
miss the 6pm news how unusual. Spin I say eh? Tell them only what
they need to know and control release it. Fortunately for the
media the ambulance and fire were called so they got their details
from them. Why is there pressure from the police quarters to
encrypt their systems as well ? Not just digital but encrypted.<br>
<br>
Why did I witnessed (In 2006) 7 police cars involved in following
an offender when police policy is for two on numerous occasions.
Why was I stopped by police whilst enroute to the end result of a
pursuit incident where 5 police cars were damaged.I wonder who
blatantly blurted over the radio "stop that media guy from getting
to the scene" so I was stopped and checked by police on a random
stop at 3am in the morning on a deserted suburban street that took
about 15 minutes where they, rightfully I might add, checked my
licence, tyres, warrant, registration label, breath tested,
checked my lights and then I waited while the details came back to
them on the radio which were incidently delivered quite fast but
the officers chose to sit in their car for 5 minutes and radio
back to the incident to make sure that the scene was
cleared.......I then got a fantastic escort to the crash scene by
no other than the NZ police making sure that I belted up,
signalled and did not exceed 50KM/H.<br>
The above incident is only one of many...but I don't want to bore
people with my stories.<br>
<br>
Yeah I know I broke the law acting on Information arrest me. The
legislation is now a lot tougher if you actively try to, or in
fact successfully decrypt the radio traffic its jail jail jail.<br>
<br>
Of course I'm just ranting now its my word against theirs and we
know the police never cover up or bend the truth, so I'll be the
one that's fabricating the whole incident. I'm not defending the
media either they can twist things as well but they are more under
public scrutiny than authorities that are be behind encryption
and legislation.<br>
<br>
Sorry but I just cant accept that the IPCA gets ALL the
facts................all the time.<br>
Oh yeah and my favourite Police Officer quote that's used when
they don't want the media there........"You'll be arrested for
obstruction"........ As you stand in a public place outside a
cordon while the general public are walking through. Don't believe
me.................It all on video...................numerous
times.............Especially the Halswell Road Christchurch fatal
police chase. I have seen the video with my own eyes. I prefer to
believe what I see and not what I'm told thanks.<br>
<br>
I think we will never agree because as your callsign infers you
are a ZL1 region "cop" and I'm (maybe) the Media. Or an avid
scanner listener.<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Andy <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zl1cop@qsl.net" target="_blank">zl1cop@qsl.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">The IPCA will release the full details
once they have investigated all the<br>
facts, not just those that make a good headline. If you are
sufficiently<br>
interested you won't mind waiting a while in order to get the
real story.<br>
Despite claims to the contrary it is not the role of the media
to keep<br>
anyone "in check".<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Andy<br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [TheList] Listening to other stuff.<br>
<br>
Overnight police chase in Auckland obviously not heard on
the scanners (No<br>
surprises) Strangely enough no media release and only
witnesses say the<br>
police were involved. Phone calls to police were very
vague on the full<br>
details.<br>
Welcome to the new world of spin and tell them only what
they need to<br>
hear.......No more Media earwigging to keep various
organisations in check.<br>
<br>
I welcome your comments :-)<br>
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Steve<br>
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