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I'm guessing you meant <b>you're</b><br>
<br>
As in, "You're illetterite"<br>
<br>
Great debate Kevin.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7/12/2010 1:07 PM, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:934619EF-5819-459D-8A84-3CA3EE159E15@gmail.com"
type="cite">GROW UP AND GET A LIFE. YOUR A IDIOT<br>
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<div>On 7/12/2010, at 1:02 PM, 11 StatusTenZero wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Kevin,<br>
<br>
I'm very concerned with your comments below...<br>
<br>
>these people have wrong attitude to authority. <br>
I beg your pardon?<br>
<br>
What so called authority? are you talking about? I think
it's you that have the wrong attitude to authority.<br>
<br>
What you seem to perceive as authority is no more that a
bunch of clowns high on their own perceived power. Much
like the Nazis.<br>
<br>
The police in this country need to remember who works for
who. Since they let in the third-rate ex-MOT clowns, the
public perception of the police has plummeted, despite their
media campaigns to manage their image.<br>
<br>
Now there is even less chance of monitoring them, and
keeping them honest.<br>
<br>
What we have nowadays, is a bunch of sheep that let the
'authorities' remove whatever rights the public at large
has.<br>
<br>
All in the name of TERRORISM or more recently RUGBY! Where
the latest SIS powers have been pushed through. I mean
WTF????<br>
<br>
At last some of the Americans seem to have woken up to the
fact that being sexually molested to fly in an aeroplane is
a step too far.<br>
<br>
So, where would YOU draw the line then?<br>
<br>
>Clean up your act or leave the list. <br>
YES SIR!<br>
<br>
Who the hell put YOU in charge? Only in your own mind
methinks.<br>
<br>
Like I said, it's FREE SPEECH. You can count yourself among
those trying to suppress it. What does that make you?<br>
<br>
<br>
>It was never like this before<br>
No, it was boring, and full of sycophants, I'd like to think
it had been livened up for a moment.<br>
<br>
Take a moment and read the following essay, and ask yourself
where you'd like to live, it's the future, and it's coming.
<br>
You can either help shape the debate, and the future, or be
doomed to live it.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/fftransparent.html">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/fftransparent.html</a><br>
<br>
Well, I've said enough for now. Lets see how the list
censor reacts to a little debate.<br>
<br>
I guess they can block me, and go on sleepwalking into the
police state or leave things open for debate.<br>
<br>
We shall see.<br>
<br>
<b>People who trade liberty for safety deserve neither.</b><br>
- Benjamin Franklin<br>
<br>
STZ<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7/12/2010 11:29 AM, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:F91C3C7F-7EAF-4FB1-AEAF-40BF9353101A@gmail.com"
type="cite">This list is getting a bit out of hand.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The language leaves a lot to be desired and shows why
these people have wrong attitude to authority. With
the way they talk perhaps they have come up on the wrong
side of the law</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Clean up your act or leave the list. It was never
like this before</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ciao</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kevin<br>
<div>
<div>On 7/12/2010, at 11:08 AM, Mike Bailey wrote:</div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> kiwi56,<br>
<br>
As someone who works with the Police regularly
(Community Patrol), I feel your calling of the
Police "pigs" and "arseholes" tends to rub off on
me as well. <br>
<br>
With an attitude like that, its no wonder it seems
you get targeted.<br>
<br>
Grow up.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On 7/12/2010 10:51, kiwi56 wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:4CFD5AC7.3020305@paradise.net.nz"
type="cite"> Steve <br>
<br>
I totally agree with everything you say. Before
they went digital you would hear the comms
operator say if there is any danger blah blah
you are to end pursuit. Wonder if they are still
saying that ha not likely.<br>
Most of the pigs out there are young cowboys who
think they can be right arseholes to anyone they
choose. <br>
Give them a patrol car and they think they can
do what they like.<br>
Here is another good thing they say we are not
revenue collecting what a load of bullshit I
actually had a cop admit that he had been told
by his sergeant to go to a certain intersection
on outskirts of queenstown and book anyone who
went through the stop sign.<br>
I pulled up at this intersection and stopped but
my wheels rolled over the line of the stop
markings so what happened the young arsehole
pulled me up and booked me $250 and then I find
out after I paid it that he had no right to book
me for a start as I had stopped at the
intersection and plus the fine should have only
been $150<br>
Some of the cops that are in wellington are
nothing but smart-arsed little pricks who think
because they have a uniform they can be
arseholes.<br>
As for police chases back when we could listen
in they knew they could not get away with a lot
because of people listening but no they are not
answerable to us so they can do what they like
and they do do what they like.<br>
I actually think it is the worst thing they
could do was go digital but never mind it has
happened now.<br>
<br>
Getting back to scanning I see telescum are
having problems with the paging system for the
fire service.<br>
My son is a volunteer at Wainuiomata and he was
saying that their pagers went off the other
night but only some of them got the page and
this has been happening quite regularly so they
have now gone back to sounding the siren for any
calls at any time. <br>
Last night Kilbirnie had the same problem so it
is about time that someone got up telecom and
told them to fix their systems<br>
.<br>
They are a pack of bullshitters as their add for
XT with their CEO is down in Glenorchy and he
says ah buggar and then says just kidding that
the network works down there well it does not. I
actually worked on the network when it was being
tested and we tested right up to the end of the
lake and then across the other side down to the
route-burn track and there was never any signal
up there and there still is not.<br>
The reason why their network failed earlier in
the year was not Alcatel fault but Telecoms as
they were told that they needed to test the
network more and that they need more sites etc
and they took no notice and then when it fell
over they blamed Alcatel.<br>
Bloody typical <br>
<br>
kiwi56<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/7/2010 10:25 AM, Steve Austin wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTinoTxxyj+2DLfqqLSi-62fXE2n5mKrp9HLAgrHT@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Andy,<br>
<br>
Oh Really? then why I ask was the press
release delayed? Why did it not contain the
full details within the average time of the
incident that other serious accidents are
reported by the police?<br>
I point out that the 1st crash was the evening
before....NO Press release about it. The
second crash was approximately 12:30 and the
press release about both crashes was sent out
at 17:59 in time to miss the 6pm news how
unusual. Spin I say eh? Tell them only what
they need to know and control release it.
Fortunately for the media the ambulance and
fire were called so they got their details
from them. Why is there pressure from the
police quarters to encrypt their systems as
well ? Not just digital but encrypted.<br>
<br>
Why did I witnessed (In 2006) 7 police cars
involved in following an offender when police
policy is for two on numerous occasions. Why
was I stopped by police whilst enroute to the
end result of a pursuit incident where 5
police cars were damaged.I wonder who
blatantly blurted over the radio "stop that
media guy from getting to the scene" so I was
stopped and checked by police on a random stop
at 3am in the morning on a deserted suburban
street that took about 15 minutes where they,
rightfully I might add, checked my licence,
tyres, warrant, registration label, breath
tested, checked my lights and then I waited
while the details came back to them on the
radio which were incidently delivered quite
fast but the officers chose to sit in their
car for 5 minutes and radio back to the
incident to make sure that the scene was
cleared.......I then got a fantastic escort to
the crash scene by no other than the NZ police
making sure that I belted up, signalled and
did not exceed 50KM/H.<br>
The above incident is only one of many...but I
don't want to bore people with my stories.<br>
<br>
Yeah I know I broke the law acting on
Information arrest me. The legislation is now
a lot tougher if you actively try to, or in
fact successfully decrypt the radio traffic
its jail jail jail.<br>
<br>
Of course I'm just ranting now its my word
against theirs and we know the police never
cover up or bend the truth, so I'll be the one
that's fabricating the whole incident. I'm not
defending the media either they can twist
things as well but they are more under public
scrutiny than authorities that are be behind
encryption and legislation.<br>
<br>
Sorry but I just cant accept that the IPCA
gets ALL the facts................all the
time.<br>
Oh yeah and my favourite Police Officer quote
that's used when they don't want the media
there........"You'll be arrested for
obstruction"........ As you stand in a public
place outside a cordon while the general
public are walking through. Don't believe
me.................It all on
video...................numerous
times.............Especially the Halswell Road
Christchurch fatal police chase. I have seen
the video with my own eyes. I prefer to
believe what I see and not what I'm told
thanks.<br>
<br>
I think we will never agree because as your
callsign infers you are a ZL1 region "cop" and
I'm (maybe) the Media. Or an avid scanner
listener.<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 5, 2010
at 9:49 PM, Andy <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:zl1cop@qsl.net"
target="_blank">zl1cop@qsl.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">The IPCA will release
the full details once they have
investigated all the<br>
facts, not just those that make a good
headline. If you are sufficiently<br>
interested you won't mind waiting a while
in order to get the real story.<br>
Despite claims to the contrary it is not
the role of the media to keep<br>
anyone "in check".<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Andy<br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [TheList] Listening to
other stuff.<br>
<br>
Overnight police chase in Auckland
obviously not heard on the scanners
(No<br>
surprises) Strangely enough no media
release and only witnesses say the<br>
police were involved. Phone calls to
police were very vague on the full<br>
details.<br>
Welcome to the new world of spin and
tell them only what they need to<br>
hear.......No more Media earwigging to
keep various organisations in check.<br>
<br>
I welcome your comments :-)<br>
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Steve<br>
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