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    I'm guessing you meant <b>you're</b><br>
    <br>
    As in, "You're illetterite"<br>
    <br>
    Great debate Kevin.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 7/12/2010 1:07 PM, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:934619EF-5819-459D-8A84-3CA3EE159E15@gmail.com"
      type="cite">GROW UP AND GET A LIFE.  YOUR A IDIOT<br>
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        <div>On 7/12/2010, at 1:02 PM, 11 StatusTenZero wrote:</div>
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        <blockquote type="cite">
          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Kevin,<br>
            <br>
            I'm very concerned with your comments below...<br>
            <br>
            >these people have  wrong attitude to authority.  <br>
            I beg your pardon?<br>
            <br>
            What so called authority? are you talking about?  I think
            it's you that have the wrong attitude to authority.<br>
            <br>
            What you seem to perceive as authority is no more that a
            bunch of clowns high on their own perceived power.  Much
            like the Nazis.<br>
            <br>
            The police in this country need to remember who works for
            who.  Since they let in the third-rate ex-MOT clowns, the
            public perception of the police has plummeted, despite their
            media campaigns to manage their image.<br>
            <br>
            Now there is even less chance of monitoring them, and
            keeping them honest.<br>
            <br>
            What we have nowadays, is a bunch of sheep that let the
            'authorities' remove whatever rights the public at large
            has.<br>
            <br>
            All in the name of TERRORISM or more recently RUGBY!  Where
            the latest SIS powers have been pushed through.  I mean
            WTF????<br>
            <br>
            At last some of the Americans seem to have woken up to the
            fact that being sexually molested to fly in an aeroplane is
            a step too far.<br>
            <br>
            So, where would YOU draw the line then?<br>
            <br>
            >Clean up your act or leave the list.  <br>
            YES SIR!<br>
            <br>
            Who the hell put YOU in charge?  Only in your own mind
            methinks.<br>
            <br>
            Like I said, it's FREE SPEECH.  You can count yourself among
            those trying to suppress it.  What does that make you?<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            >It was never like this before<br>
            No, it was boring, and full of sycophants, I'd like to think
            it had been livened up for a moment.<br>
            <br>
            Take a moment and read the following essay, and ask yourself
            where you'd like to live, it's the future, and it's coming. 
            <br>
            You can either help shape the debate, and the future, or be
            doomed to live it.<br>
            <br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/fftransparent.html">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/fftransparent.html</a><br>
            <br>
            Well, I've said enough for now.  Lets see how the list
            censor reacts to a little debate.<br>
            <br>
            I guess they can block me, and go on sleepwalking into the
            police state or leave things open for debate.<br>
            <br>
            We shall see.<br>
            <br>
            <b>People who trade liberty for safety deserve neither.</b><br>
            - Benjamin Franklin<br>
            <br>
            STZ<br>
             <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 7/12/2010 11:29 AM, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
            <blockquote
              cite="mid:F91C3C7F-7EAF-4FB1-AEAF-40BF9353101A@gmail.com"
              type="cite">This list is getting a bit out of hand.
              <div><br>
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              <div>The language leaves a lot to be desired and shows why
                these people have  wrong attitude to authority.  With
                the way they talk perhaps they have come up on the wrong
                side of the law</div>
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              <div>Clean up your act or leave the list.  It was never
                like this before</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>Ciao</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Kevin<br>
                <div>
                  <div>On 7/12/2010, at 11:08 AM, Mike Bailey wrote:</div>
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                    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> kiwi56,<br>
                      <br>
                      As someone who works with the Police regularly
                      (Community Patrol), I feel your calling of the
                      Police "pigs" and "arseholes" tends to rub off on
                      me as well. <br>
                      <br>
                      With an attitude like that, its no wonder it seems
                      you get targeted.<br>
                      <br>
                      Grow up.<br>
                      <br>
                      Cheers<br>
                      Mike<br>
                      <br>
                      On 7/12/2010 10:51, kiwi56 wrote:
                      <blockquote
                        cite="mid:4CFD5AC7.3020305@paradise.net.nz"
                        type="cite"> Steve <br>
                        <br>
                        I totally agree with everything you say. Before
                        they went digital you would hear the comms
                        operator say if there is any danger blah blah
                        you are to end pursuit. Wonder if they are still
                        saying that ha not likely.<br>
                        Most of the pigs out there are young cowboys who
                        think they can be right arseholes to anyone they
                        choose. <br>
                        Give them a patrol car and they think they can
                        do what they like.<br>
                        Here is another good thing they say we are not
                        revenue collecting what a load of bullshit I
                        actually had a cop admit that he had been told
                        by his sergeant to go to a certain intersection
                        on outskirts of queenstown and book anyone who
                        went through the stop sign.<br>
                        I pulled up at this intersection and stopped but
                        my wheels rolled over the line of the stop
                        markings so what happened the young arsehole
                        pulled me up and booked me $250 and then I find
                        out after I paid it that he had no right to book
                        me for a start as I had stopped at the
                        intersection and plus the fine should have only
                        been $150<br>
                        Some of the cops that are in wellington are
                        nothing but smart-arsed little pricks who think
                        because they have a uniform they can be
                        arseholes.<br>
                        As for police chases back when we could listen
                        in they knew they could not get away with a lot
                        because of people listening but no they are not
                        answerable to us so they can do what they like
                        and they do do what they like.<br>
                        I actually think it is the worst thing they
                        could do was go digital but never mind it has
                        happened now.<br>
                        <br>
                        Getting back to scanning I see telescum are
                        having problems with the paging system for the
                        fire service.<br>
                        My son is a volunteer at Wainuiomata and he was
                        saying that their pagers went off the other
                        night but only some of them got the page and
                        this has been happening quite regularly so they
                        have now gone back to sounding the siren for any
                        calls at any time. <br>
                        Last night Kilbirnie had the same problem so it
                        is about time that someone got up telecom and
                        told them to fix their systems<br>
                        .<br>
                        They are a pack of bullshitters as their add for
                        XT with their CEO is down in Glenorchy and he
                        says ah buggar and then says just kidding that
                        the network works down there well it does not. I
                        actually worked on the network when it was being
                        tested and we tested right up to the end of the
                        lake and then across the other side down to the
                        route-burn track and there was never any signal
                        up there and there still is not.<br>
                        The reason why their network failed earlier in
                        the year was not Alcatel fault but Telecoms as
                        they were told that they needed to test the
                        network more and that they need more sites etc
                        and they took no notice and then when it fell
                        over they blamed Alcatel.<br>
                        Bloody typical <br>
                        <br>
                        kiwi56<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        On 12/7/2010 10:25 AM, Steve Austin wrote:
                        <blockquote
                          cite="mid:AANLkTinoTxxyj+2DLfqqLSi-62fXE2n5mKrp9HLAgrHT@mail.gmail.com"
                          type="cite">Andy,<br>
                          <br>
                          Oh Really? then why I ask was the press
                          release delayed? Why did it not contain the
                          full details within the average time of the
                          incident that other serious accidents are
                          reported by the police?<br>
                          I point out that the 1st crash was the evening
                          before....NO Press release about it. The
                          second crash was approximately 12:30 and the
                          press release about both crashes was sent out
                          at 17:59 in time to miss the 6pm news how
                          unusual. Spin I say eh? Tell them only what
                          they need to know and control release it.
                          Fortunately for the media the ambulance and
                          fire were called so they got their details
                          from them. Why is there pressure from the
                          police quarters to encrypt their systems as
                          well ? Not just digital but encrypted.<br>
                          <br>
                          Why did I witnessed (In 2006) 7 police cars
                          involved in following an offender when police
                          policy is for two on numerous occasions. Why
                          was I stopped by police whilst enroute to the
                          end result of a pursuit incident where 5
                          police cars were damaged.I wonder who
                          blatantly blurted over the radio "stop that
                          media guy from getting to the scene" so I was
                          stopped and checked by police on a random stop
                          at 3am in the morning on a deserted suburban
                          street that took about 15 minutes where they,
                          rightfully I might add, checked my licence,
                          tyres, warrant, registration label, breath
                          tested, checked my lights and then I waited
                          while the details came back to them on the
                          radio which were incidently delivered quite
                          fast but the officers chose to sit in their
                          car for 5 minutes and radio back to the
                          incident to make sure that the scene was
                          cleared.......I then got a fantastic escort to
                          the crash scene by no other than the NZ police
                          making sure that I belted up, signalled and
                          did not exceed 50KM/H.<br>
                          The above incident is only one of many...but I
                          don't want to bore people with my stories.<br>
                          <br>
                          Yeah I know I broke the law acting on
                          Information arrest me. The legislation is now
                          a lot tougher if you actively try to, or in
                          fact successfully decrypt the radio traffic
                          its jail jail jail.<br>
                          <br>
                          Of course I'm just ranting now its my word
                          against theirs and we know the police never
                          cover up or bend the truth, so I'll be the one
                          that's fabricating the whole incident. I'm not
                          defending the media either they can twist
                          things as well but they are more under public
                          scrutiny  than authorities that are be behind
                          encryption and legislation.<br>
                          <br>
                          Sorry but I just cant accept that the IPCA
                          gets ALL the facts................all the
                          time.<br>
                          Oh yeah and my favourite Police Officer quote
                          that's used when they don't want the media
                          there........"You'll be arrested for
                          obstruction"........ As you stand in a public
                          place outside a cordon while the general
                          public are walking through. Don't believe
                          me.................It all on
                          video...................numerous
                          times.............Especially the Halswell Road
                          Christchurch fatal police chase. I have seen
                          the video with my own eyes. I prefer to
                          believe what I see and not what I'm told
                          thanks.<br>
                          <br>
                          I think we will never agree because as your
                          callsign infers you are a ZL1 region "cop" and
                          I'm (maybe) the Media. Or an avid scanner
                          listener.<br>
                          <br>
                          Steve<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 5, 2010
                            at 9:49 PM, Andy <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:zl1cop@qsl.net"
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                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                              border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
                              padding-left: 1ex;">The IPCA will release
                              the full details once they have
                              investigated all the<br>
                              facts, not just those that make a good
                              headline. If you are sufficiently<br>
                              interested you won't mind waiting a while
                              in order to get the real story.<br>
                              Despite claims to the contrary it is not
                              the role of the media to keep<br>
                              anyone "in check".<br>
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                                Andy<br>
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                                On Behalf Of Steve Austin<br>
                                Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2010 7:08 p.m.<br>
                                To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                <div>Subject: Re: [TheList] Listening to
                                  other stuff.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Overnight police chase in Auckland
                                  obviously not heard on the scanners
                                  (No<br>
                                  surprises) Strangely enough no media
                                  release and only witnesses say the<br>
                                  police were involved. Phone calls to
                                  police were very vague on the full<br>
                                  details.<br>
                                  Welcome to the new world of spin and
                                  tell them only what they need to<br>
                                  hear.......No more Media earwigging to
                                  keep various organisations in check.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  I welcome  your comments :-)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Steve<br>
                                  <br>
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