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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Even then, no.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As Neill posted a few days ago, it requires 10,000ish years was
it Neill? with the current available computing power to crack the key. But the
key changes frequently so it will be quite out of date after 10,000 years
anyway </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This system has been in use around the world for years, no one
has cracked the encryption, and it is widely believed that no-one will anytime
soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But if anyone wants to fire up the dusty old 386 in their garage
and have a go, by all means be my guest </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz
[mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shane Vickers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 May 2009 7:24 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> thelist@radiowiki.org.nz<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TheList] Encription installation commences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>With money I guess it could be..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz
[mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Palmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 May 2009 7:21 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> thelist@radiowiki.org.nz<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TheList] Encription installation commences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Do you really think it will be that simple?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>(Answer = no)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz
[mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 May 2009 6:37 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> thelist@radiowiki.org.nz<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TheList] Encription installation commences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Well
thinking outside the circle</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wouldn't
it be easier to just get the same speced radio and secretly clone one of the
others and disable the kill feature?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>another
thing, if its a case of having the key - have some way to recognise the data
transmitted to change the keys/encryption and set up some system to only listen
for that change and record/decode it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cos
surely at some stage someone will have a radio turned off or battery go flat
when the new key is transmitted so will have to listen out for it unencrypted
or is this some multi-layered system that can transmit with multiple different
sets of encryption at the same time?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Food
for thought?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 26/05/2009 5:48:32 p.m., Rick (<a
href="mailto:smithr@ihug.co.nz">smithr@ihug.co.nz</a>) wrote:<br>
> Hi Ray.<br>
> <br>
> Not sure if even our experts could decode apc25 encryption.<br>
> Perhaps a digital receiver combined with a Cray supercomputer and many<br>
> hours<br>
> of programming may get you close but that is likely all thwarted by the<br>
> "over the air rekeying".<br>
> <br>
> Now what did we all do before scanners came along?<br>
> <br>
> Rick.<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz">thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
> [mailto:thelist-bounces@radiowiki.org.nz] On Behalf Of RayC<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:29<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:thelist@radiowiki.org.nz">thelist@radiowiki.org.nz</a><br>
> Subject: [TheList] Encription installation commences<br>
> <br>
> What would be the best radio to buy to listen to the police.<o:p></o:p></p>
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