[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 121, Issue 14

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Mon Feb 24 19:28:37 AEDT 2020


Sometimes you get lucky and both sides are on the same channel, 
especially on the smaller sites. I definitely agree that some of the 
banter on there is good value and has been of great entertainment over 
the years!

On 24/02/2020 8:49 p.m., Andrew Mallett wrote:
> i just go onto the RSM site and get the channels, the scanners we have 
> in NZ will not track trunking period, all you can do is listen to the 
> one sided convo till the end.
>
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>> Nino White is dead right.
>> Like i said, 2x SDR and set up unitrunker and it works well.
>> Im sure i used the national pages info to set up.
>> Some of the chatter is good value iirc
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>> Currently there is no scanner that does mpt. Best bet is use an SDR with
>> unitrunker or buy a Tait 8200
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>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, 20:12 richard Pringle, <uncledingo at live.com> wrote:
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>>> The national page i believe has more information regarding Mpt1327.
>>> Cap+ ,Con+, P25 and several other DMR trunked system in
>>> Canterbury/Christchurch.
>>> I just use a SDR and DSD+
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>>>     1. trunking (Allan Kennaird)
>>>     2. Re: trunking (DogSecurity - Richard)
>>>     3. Re: trunk tracking (Brendan Sheehy)
>>>     4. Re: trunking (DogSecurity - Richard)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 18:58:11 +1300
>>> From: Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>>> Subject: [TheList] trunking
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>>> Hi Guys,
>>> As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else, other
>>> than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner, Ctcss
>>> & Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor Antenna's .
>>> I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
>>> comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page doesn't
>>> elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the trunking
>>> system to work.
>>>
>>> The software that I use is Proscan:
>>> to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
>>> Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz, 
>>> Type 2
>>> VHF, Type 2 UHF
>>> Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
>>> I-Call - ?
>>> Control Channel = ??
>>>
>>> ============================================================================================= 
>>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>> Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a scantx
>>> antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:10:08 +1300
>>> From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
>>> To: Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz,thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunking
>>> Message-ID: <27F4924D-B1BF-4D5B-8FCF-97BAB5F38542 at dogsecurity.co.nz>
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>>> The scanner needs the P25 card to do P25 and I think it was limited to
>>> phase1... Type 1 and 2 wasn't a big thing here, the only LTR stuff 
>>> would be
>>> the prisons that are now digital encrypted in Canterbury. I never 
>>> heard of
>>> any EDACS systems either.  So unfortunately to be the barer of bad 
>>> news,
>>> but I don't see you listening to much trunking stuff with that 
>>> scanner to
>>> be fair.
>>> Richard
>>> ----------------------
>>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
>>> spelling.
>>>
>>> On 24 February 2020 6:58:11 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird 
>>> <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>> As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else, other
>>>> than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner, 
>>>> Ctcss
>>>>
>>>> & Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor 
>>>> Antenna's .
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
>>>> comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page doesn't
>>>> elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the trunking
>>>> system to work.
>>>>
>>>> The software that I use is Proscan:
>>>> to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
>>>> Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz, Type
>>>> 2
>>>> VHF, Type 2 UHF
>>>> Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
>>>> I-Call - ?
>>>> Control Channel = ??
>>>> ============================================================================================= 
>>>>
>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>> Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a scantx
>>>> antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 06:37:53 +0000
>>> From: Brendan Sheehy <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "thelist at radiowiki.org.nz" <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>,
>>>          "Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz" <Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz>
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>>> It's been quite some time since I was last in chch.
>>> >From memory I was only able to monitor the t l parker 800mhz stuff.
>>> I am not sure if it's still analogue trunking or if they have moved 
>>> to dmr.
>>> Any locals that monitor via the sdr's may be able to tell us that?
>>>
>>> From: TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz> on behalf of Allan
>>> Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 6:06:05 PM
>>> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunk tracking
>>>
>>> Hi Brendan,
>>> Not sure who the other person was that replied, but I have seen a 
>>> lot of
>>> posts from you regarding scanning etc,
>>>
>>> I?ve got a BC785D, Trunk tracker3, I having a play with everything on
>>> it, and decided to have a  go at trunk tracking. I have all the
>>> frequencies from the Wiki page for Canterbury, but I don?t know what
>>> information I have to enter regarding the settings, control codes etc
>>>
>>> Motorola type 1, type 2 UHF, VHF etc
>>> any help very much appreciated
>>>
>>> regards
>>> The Deadman
>>> Allan
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:39:33 +1300
>>> From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
>>> To: Thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>>> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunking
>>> Message-ID: <0C6BED8F-C17C-4C4B-87B2-1297749AADAD at dogsecurity.co.nz>
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>>>
>>> Take a step back and answer what we're indirectly asking.
>>>
>>> The settings you mentioned are for a pile of systems not really used in
>>> NZ.  As has been previously mentioned, your scanner won't do MPT1327
>>> trunking (short of putting in all frequencies of the site you're 
>>> listening
>>> to, then removing the control channel - which won't allow following 
>>> certain
>>> users) There's no DMR capability (so rules out Vitals Tier3, Orion 
>>> Tier3
>>> and Push Wireless)
>>>
>>>  From your tone you're getting frustrated, which is fine, but you 
>>> haven't
>>> mentioned who you're trying to listen to, so we can't help with 
>>> settings
>>> until we know the system type, which we can start to work out by the 
>>> user.
>>> You say you've listened to 'the trunking system' but not which one
>>>
>>> There wasn't any unencrypted P25 audio when I was down last, and I 
>>> don't
>>> know if its type 1 or type 2.  As I mentioned, I don't think your 
>>> card does
>>> type2 so be aware of that also.
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
>>> spelling.
>>>
>>> On 24 February 2020 7:13:44 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird 
>>> <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
>>> wrote:
>>>> the scanner is apco-25 therefore it has a Bci card installed, a few
>>>> years ago, i had the trunking system working, but since have lost the
>>>> information to enter. the trunking frequencies are available on the
>>>> Canterbury Radio _wiki web page, the Prisons in Canterbury have there
>>>> own Encrypted frequencies, I visit one of them daily so I do know
>>>> this..
>>>> All i want is the information needed...
>>>>
>>>> Please if you can't help with the information, please don?t reply to
>>>> this message
>>>>
>>>> On 24/02/2020 7:10 pm, DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
>>>>> The scanner needs the P25 card to do P25 and I think it was limited
>>>> to
>>>>> phase1... Type 1 and 2 wasn't a big thing here, the only LTR stuff
>>>>> would be the prisons that are now digital encrypted in Canterbury. I
>>>>> never heard of any EDACS systems either. So unfortunately to be the
>>>>> barer of bad news, but I don't see you listening to much trunking
>>>>> stuff with that scanner to be fair.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>
>>>>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
>>>>> spelling.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 February 2020 6:58:11 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird
>>>>> <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hi Guys,
>>>>>      As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else,
>>>> other
>>>>>      than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 
>>>>> Scanner,
>>>> Ctcss
>>>>>      & Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor
>>>> Antenna's .
>>>>>      I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
>>>>>      comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page
>>>> doesn't
>>>>>      elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the
>>>> trunking
>>>>>      system to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>      The software that I use is Proscan:
>>>>>      to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
>>>>>      Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 
>>>>> 900mhz,
>>>> Type 2
>>>>>      VHF, Type 2 UHF
>>>>>      Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
>>>>>      I-Call - ?
>>>>>      Control Channel = ??
>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>
>>>>>      Hi Greg,
>>>>>      Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a
>>>> scantx
>>>>>      antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
>>>>>
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