[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 121, Issue 13

richard Pringle uncledingo at live.com
Mon Feb 24 18:22:18 AEDT 2020


Nino White is dead right.
Like i said, 2x SDR and set up unitrunker and it works well.
Im sure i used the national pages info to set up.
Some of the chatter is good value iirc
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From: Nino White <nbhunga at gmail.com>
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Currently there is no scanner that does mpt. Best bet is use an SDR with
unitrunker or buy a Tait 8200

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, 20:12 richard Pringle, <uncledingo at live.com> wrote:

> The national page i believe has more information regarding Mpt1327.
> Cap+ ,Con+, P25 and several other DMR trunked system in
> Canterbury/Christchurch.
> I just use a SDR and DSD+
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>    1. trunking (Allan Kennaird)
>    2. Re: trunking (DogSecurity - Richard)
>    3. Re: trunk tracking (Brendan Sheehy)
>    4. Re: trunking (DogSecurity - Richard)
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> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 18:58:11 +1300
> From: Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
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> Subject: [TheList] trunking
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> Hi Guys,
> As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else, other
> than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner, Ctcss
> & Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor Antenna's .
> I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
> comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page doesn't
> elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the trunking
> system to work.
>
> The software that I use is Proscan:
> to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
> Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz, Type 2
> VHF, Type 2 UHF
> Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
> I-Call - ?
> Control Channel = ??
>
> =============================================================================================
> Hi Greg,
> Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a scantx
> antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
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> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:10:08 +1300
> From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> To: Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz,thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunking
> Message-ID: <27F4924D-B1BF-4D5B-8FCF-97BAB5F38542 at dogsecurity.co.nz>
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> The scanner needs the P25 card to do P25 and I think it was limited to
> phase1... Type 1 and 2 wasn't a big thing here, the only LTR stuff would be
> the prisons that are now digital encrypted in Canterbury. I never heard of
> any EDACS systems either.  So unfortunately to be the barer of bad news,
> but I don't see you listening to much trunking stuff with that scanner to
> be fair.
> Richard
> ----------------------
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
> spelling.
>
> On 24 February 2020 6:58:11 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >Hi Guys,
> >As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else, other
> >than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner, Ctcss
> >
> >& Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor Antenna's .
> >
> >I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
> >comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page doesn't
> >elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the trunking
> >system to work.
> >
> >The software that I use is Proscan:
> >to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
> >Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz, Type
> >2
> >VHF, Type 2 UHF
> >Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
> >I-Call - ?
> >Control Channel = ??
>
> >=============================================================================================
> >Hi Greg,
> >Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a scantx
> >antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
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> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 06:37:53 +0000
> From: Brendan Sheehy <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
> To: "thelist at radiowiki.org.nz" <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>,
>         "Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz" <Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunk tracking
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> It's been quite some time since I was last in chch.
> >From memory I was only able to monitor the t l parker 800mhz stuff.
> I am not sure if it's still analogue trunking or if they have moved to dmr.
> Any locals that monitor via the sdr's may be able to tell us that?
>
> From: TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz> on behalf of Allan
> Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 6:06:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunk tracking
>
> Hi Brendan,
> Not sure who the other person was that replied, but I have seen a lot of
> posts from you regarding scanning etc,
>
> I?ve got a BC785D, Trunk tracker3, I having a play with everything on
> it, and decided to have a  go at trunk tracking. I have all the
> frequencies from the Wiki page for Canterbury, but I don?t know what
> information I have to enter regarding the settings, control codes etc
>
> Motorola type 1, type 2 UHF, VHF etc
> any help very much appreciated
>
> regards
> The Deadman
> Allan
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> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:39:33 +1300
> From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> To: Thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [TheList] trunking
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> Take a step back and answer what we're indirectly asking.
>
> The settings you mentioned are for a pile of systems not really used in
> NZ.  As has been previously mentioned, your scanner won't do MPT1327
> trunking (short of putting in all frequencies of the site you're listening
> to, then removing the control channel - which won't allow following certain
> users) There's no DMR capability (so rules out Vitals Tier3, Orion Tier3
> and Push Wireless)
>
> From your tone you're getting frustrated, which is fine, but you haven't
> mentioned who you're trying to listen to, so we can't help with settings
> until we know the system type, which we can start to work out by the user.
> You say you've listened to 'the trunking system' but not which one
>
> There wasn't any unencrypted P25 audio when I was down last, and I don't
> know if its type 1 or type 2.  As I mentioned, I don't think your card does
> type2 so be aware of that also.
>
> ----------------------
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
> spelling.
>
> On 24 February 2020 7:13:44 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >the scanner is apco-25 therefore it has a Bci card installed, a few
> >years ago, i had the trunking system working, but since have lost the
> >information to enter. the trunking frequencies are available on the
> >Canterbury Radio _wiki web page, the Prisons in Canterbury have there
> >own Encrypted frequencies, I visit one of them daily so I do know
> >this..
> >All i want is the information needed...
> >
> >Please if you can't help with the information, please don?t reply to
> >this message
> >
> >On 24/02/2020 7:10 pm, DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
> >> The scanner needs the P25 card to do P25 and I think it was limited
> >to
> >> phase1... Type 1 and 2 wasn't a big thing here, the only LTR stuff
> >> would be the prisons that are now digital encrypted in Canterbury. I
> >> never heard of any EDACS systems either. So unfortunately to be the
> >> barer of bad news, but I don't see you listening to much trunking
> >> stuff with that scanner to be fair.
> >> Richard
> >>
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
> >> spelling.
> >>
> >> On 24 February 2020 6:58:11 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird
> >> <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hi Guys,
> >>     As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else,
> >other
> >>     than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner,
> >Ctcss
> >>     & Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor
> >Antenna's .
> >>     I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
> >>     comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page
> >doesn't
> >>     elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the
> >trunking
> >>     system to work.
> >>
> >>     The software that I use is Proscan:
> >>     to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
> >>     Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz,
> >Type 2
> >>     VHF, Type 2 UHF
> >>     Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
> >>     I-Call - ?
> >>     Control Channel = ??
> >>
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>     Hi Greg,
> >>     Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a
> >scantx
> >>     antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
> >>
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