[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 121, Issue 11

Mon Feb 24 17:51:03 AEDT 2020

The national page i believe has more information regarding Mpt1327.
Cap+ ,Con+, P25 and several other DMR trunked system in Canterbury/Christchurch.
I just use a SDR and DSD+
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Today's Topics:

   1. trunking (Allan Kennaird)
   2. Re: trunking (DogSecurity - Richard)
   3. Re: trunk tracking (Brendan Sheehy)
   4. Re: trunking (DogSecurity - Richard)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 18:58:11 +1300
From: Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
Subject: [TheList] trunking
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Hi Guys,
As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else, other
than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner, Ctcss
& Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor Antenna's .
I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page doesn't
elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the trunking
system to work.

The software that I use is Proscan:
to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz, Type 2
VHF, Type 2 UHF
Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
I-Call - ?
Control Channel = ??
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Hi Greg,
Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a scantx
antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:10:08 +1300
From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
To: Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz,thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
Subject: Re: [TheList] trunking
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The scanner needs the P25 card to do P25 and I think it was limited to phase1... Type 1 and 2 wasn't a big thing here, the only LTR stuff would be the prisons that are now digital encrypted in Canterbury. I never heard of any EDACS systems either.  So unfortunately to be the barer of bad news, but I don't see you listening to much trunking stuff with that scanner to be fair.
Richard
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On 24 February 2020 6:58:11 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else, other
>than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner, Ctcss
>
>& Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor Antenna's .
>
>I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
>comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page doesn't
>elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the trunking
>system to work.
>
>The software that I use is Proscan:
>to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
>Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz, Type
>2
>VHF, Type 2 UHF
>Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
>I-Call - ?
>Control Channel = ??
>=============================================================================================
>Hi Greg,
>Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a scantx
>antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 06:37:53 +0000
From: Brendan Sheehy <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
To: "thelist at radiowiki.org.nz" <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>,
        "Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz" <Deadsearch at xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [TheList] trunk tracking
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It's been quite some time since I was last in chch.
>From memory I was only able to monitor the t l parker 800mhz stuff.
I am not sure if it's still analogue trunking or if they have moved to dmr.
Any locals that monitor via the sdr's may be able to tell us that?

From: TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz> on behalf of Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 6:06:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [TheList] trunk tracking

Hi Brendan,
Not sure who the other person was that replied, but I have seen a lot of
posts from you regarding scanning etc,

I?ve got a BC785D, Trunk tracker3, I having a play with everything on
it, and decided to have a  go at trunk tracking. I have all the
frequencies from the Wiki page for Canterbury, but I don?t know what
information I have to enter regarding the settings, control codes etc

Motorola type 1, type 2 UHF, VHF etc
any help very much appreciated

regards
The Deadman
Allan
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 19:39:33 +1300
From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
To: Thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
Subject: Re: [TheList] trunking
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Take a step back and answer what we're indirectly asking.

The settings you mentioned are for a pile of systems not really used in NZ.  As has been previously mentioned, your scanner won't do MPT1327 trunking (short of putting in all frequencies of the site you're listening to, then removing the control channel - which won't allow following certain users) There's no DMR capability (so rules out Vitals Tier3, Orion Tier3 and Push Wireless)

>From your tone you're getting frustrated, which is fine, but you haven't mentioned who you're trying to listen to, so we can't help with settings until we know the system type, which we can start to work out by the user.  You say you've listened to 'the trunking system' but not which one

There wasn't any unencrypted P25 audio when I was down last, and I don't know if its type 1 or type 2.  As I mentioned, I don't think your card does type2 so be aware of that also.

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On 24 February 2020 7:13:44 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>the scanner is apco-25 therefore it has a Bci card installed, a few
>years ago, i had the trunking system working, but since have lost the
>information to enter. the trunking frequencies are available on the
>Canterbury Radio _wiki web page, the Prisons in Canterbury have there
>own Encrypted frequencies, I visit one of them daily so I do know
>this..
>All i want is the information needed...
>
>Please if you can't help with the information, please don?t reply to
>this message
>
>On 24/02/2020 7:10 pm, DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
>> The scanner needs the P25 card to do P25 and I think it was limited
>to
>> phase1... Type 1 and 2 wasn't a big thing here, the only LTR stuff
>> would be the prisons that are now digital encrypted in Canterbury. I
>> never heard of any EDACS systems either. So unfortunately to be the
>> barer of bad news, but I don't see you listening to much trunking
>> stuff with that scanner to be fair.
>> Richard
>>
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>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
>> spelling.
>>
>> On 24 February 2020 6:58:11 pm NZDT, Allan Kennaird
>> <Noddy1961 at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Guys,
>>     As Firefrog has mentioned, I do not want to use anything else,
>other
>>     than my scanner(s) the BC785D is a Digital ready Apco-25 Scanner,
>Ctcss
>>     & Dcs that has trunk tracker 3 capabilities. I have outdoor
>Antenna's .
>>     I have noticed that on the Auckland Page of Radio-wiki, there is
>>     comprehensive trunking information, but the Canterbury Page
>doesn't
>>     elaborate into what settings are needed to obtain to get the
>trunking
>>     system to work.
>>
>>     The software that I use is Proscan:
>>     to upload to the scanner the following information is required:
>>     Trunk Type = Off, Motorola Type1, Type 2, 800mhz, Type 2, 900mhz,
>Type 2
>>     VHF, Type 2 UHF
>>     Edacs = not sure if available in NZ
>>     I-Call - ?
>>     Control Channel = ??
>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     Hi Greg,
>>     Still got that BCT8 you sold me, have installed into car, got a
>scantx
>>     antenna from Aussie, works a treat :-)
>>
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