[TheList] TIII Network

Fri Apr 3 13:50:48 AEDT 2020

Tim you'll need to search for the audible control channels or find voice
channels and map it out. I have just started using an sdr rtl with DSD plus
fastlane software.

It took alot for me to get it going but with the help of a nice fellas I
got it working great and have started my digital radio journey.
I have an SDS100 scanner on it's way in the post so it will make
things easier with this software to get info and to program it.

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 15:45 , <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz> wrote:

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> From: Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com>
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> Ho
>
> Are there any of these networks in Dunedin that I can listen to I'm
> listening to Delta on one network but that's about it. Anyone can point me
> in the right direction as always I would be greatly appreciative of that
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 14:45 DogSecurity - Richard, <
> richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> > These are all the new Tier3 Vital (the new name of Teamtalk) network that
> > will eventually replace Fleetlink and ActionNet completely.  These are
> > likely existing Fleetlink and/or ActionNet sites, that have had some of
> the
> > MPT1327 voice channels removed and Tier3 gear installed.
> >
> > I can't help with mapping it out, as I'm not down there, you might be the
> > best positioned to do that, as you're clearly receiving multiple sites
> from
> > your location.
> >
> > Mapping them out will be a slow process as you have to wait for voice
> > activity.  When mapping, I tend to search each control channel to get the
> > site name on RSM, then search for Vital as customer, and that repeater
> site
> > as the Transmit location... add all of those channels into a scanner and
> > listen for which are trunking and which are mpt1327 channels.... if
> you're
> > scanning and hear voice - it's gotta be part of the MPT1327 systems so
> can
> > be removed.  Eventually you'll only have DMR channels left. Then it's a
> > case of letting DSDPlus do the work for you, matching the DMR channels to
> > DSD channels to get a full map.  There's probably a better way of doing
> > this, however I don't think searching for emission 7K60FXWDT will help,
> as
> > I think the channels are registered as both analog and digital capable.
> >
> > Anyone reading that doesn't understand, remember that you'll only receive
> > talkgroups on a site that has a subscriber radio subscribed.  IE if
> > CustomerA has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA, and CustomerB has
> > Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA and SiteB.  When CustomerA does a
> > group call, you'll hear it on SiteA and NOT SiteB, whereas CustomerB
> you'll
> > receive on both.  This isn't a limitation of the scanner, you're likely
> not
> > doing anything wrong.. but how the network is designed to work.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > On 3/04/2020 14:23, Darryl Healy wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > Timaru based
> >
> > Does anyone have any info on a couple of Tiii networks?
> >  H2-32.2 (414.31250, 410.66250 and 412.06250),
> >  H2-31.6 (414 38750),
> >  H2-31.5 (414 42500),
> >  H2-31.2 (416.7500) which I am receiving locally in Timaru.
> >
> > Id anyone has these Tiii sites mapped out could I get more info on them?
> >
> > Any info on these networks would be great trying to map it out on DSD
> Plus
> > fastlane.
> >
> > Darryl
> >
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 15:07:33 +1300
> From: Scan CHCH <scanchch at gmail.com>
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> I have mapped out 3 of the Christchurch sites
>
> On Friday, April 3, 2020, Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ho
> >
> > Are there any of these networks in Dunedin that I can listen to I'm
> > listening to Delta on one network but that's about it. Anyone can point
> me
> > in the right direction as always I would be greatly appreciative of that
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 14:45 DogSecurity - Richard, <
> > richard at dogsecurity.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> >> These are all the new Tier3 Vital (the new name of Teamtalk) network
> that
> >> will eventually replace Fleetlink and ActionNet completely.  These are
> >> likely existing Fleetlink and/or ActionNet sites, that have had some of
> the
> >> MPT1327 voice channels removed and Tier3 gear installed.
> >>
> >> I can't help with mapping it out, as I'm not down there, you might be
> the
> >> best positioned to do that, as you're clearly receiving multiple sites
> from
> >> your location.
> >>
> >> Mapping them out will be a slow process as you have to wait for voice
> >> activity.  When mapping, I tend to search each control channel to get
> the
> >> site name on RSM, then search for Vital as customer, and that repeater
> site
> >> as the Transmit location... add all of those channels into a scanner and
> >> listen for which are trunking and which are mpt1327 channels.... if
> you're
> >> scanning and hear voice - it's gotta be part of the MPT1327 systems so
> can
> >> be removed.  Eventually you'll only have DMR channels left. Then it's a
> >> case of letting DSDPlus do the work for you, matching the DMR channels
> to
> >> DSD channels to get a full map.  There's probably a better way of doing
> >> this, however I don't think searching for emission 7K60FXWDT will help,
> as
> >> I think the channels are registered as both analog and digital capable.
> >>
> >> Anyone reading that doesn't understand, remember that you'll only
> receive
> >> talkgroups on a site that has a subscriber radio subscribed.  IE if
> >> CustomerA has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA, and CustomerB has
> >> Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA and SiteB.  When CustomerA does
> a
> >> group call, you'll hear it on SiteA and NOT SiteB, whereas CustomerB
> you'll
> >> receive on both.  This isn't a limitation of the scanner, you're likely
> not
> >> doing anything wrong.. but how the network is designed to work.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/04/2020 14:23, Darryl Healy wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone.
> >>
> >> Timaru based
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any info on a couple of Tiii networks?
> >>  H2-32.2 (414.31250, 410.66250 and 412.06250),
> >>  H2-31.6 (414 38750),
> >>  H2-31.5 (414 42500),
> >>  H2-31.2 (416.7500) which I am receiving locally in Timaru.
> >>
> >> Id anyone has these Tiii sites mapped out could I get more info on them?
> >>
> >> Any info on these networks would be great trying to map it out on DSD
> >> Plus fastlane.
> >>
> >> Darryl
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> From: Brendan Sheehy <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
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> Easiest way is to run the control channel through DSD+ it will list the
> voice channels for each call.
> Then just divide the even channel number by 2 ? 1 and you will have the TD
> channel number for that voice channel.
>
> Tim I have some Dunedin sites setup in my Uniden I?ll pull them out
> shortly and email you direct.
>
> Regards
>
> Brendan
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> From: Scan CHCH<mailto:scanchch at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, 3 April 2020 3:08 PM
> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz<mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> Subject: Re: [TheList] TIII Network
>
> I have mapped out 3 of the Christchurch sites
>
> On Friday, April 3, 2020, Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com<mailto:
> timdevaneynz at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Ho
>
> Are there any of these networks in Dunedin that I can listen to I'm
> listening to Delta on one network but that's about it. Anyone can point me
> in the right direction as always I would be greatly appreciative of that
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 14:45 DogSecurity - Richard, <
> richard at dogsecurity.co.nz<mailto:richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>> wrote:
>
> These are all the new Tier3 Vital (the new name of Teamtalk) network that
> will eventually replace Fleetlink and ActionNet completely.  These are
> likely existing Fleetlink and/or ActionNet sites, that have had some of the
> MPT1327 voice channels removed and Tier3 gear installed.
>
> I can't help with mapping it out, as I'm not down there, you might be the
> best positioned to do that, as you're clearly receiving multiple sites from
> your location.
>
> Mapping them out will be a slow process as you have to wait for voice
> activity.  When mapping, I tend to search each control channel to get the
> site name on RSM, then search for Vital as customer, and that repeater site
> as the Transmit location... add all of those channels into a scanner and
> listen for which are trunking and which are mpt1327 channels.... if you're
> scanning and hear voice - it's gotta be part of the MPT1327 systems so can
> be removed.  Eventually you'll only have DMR channels left. Then it's a
> case of letting DSDPlus do the work for you, matching the DMR channels to
> DSD channels to get a full map.  There's probably a better way of doing
> this, however I don't think searching for emission 7K60FXWDT will help, as
> I think the channels are registered as both analog and digital capable.
>
> Anyone reading that doesn't understand, remember that you'll only receive
> talkgroups on a site that has a subscriber radio subscribed.  IE if
> CustomerA has Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA, and CustomerB has
> Vehicle1 and Vehicle2 attached to SiteA and SiteB.  When CustomerA does a
> group call, you'll hear it on SiteA and NOT SiteB, whereas CustomerB you'll
> receive on both.  This isn't a limitation of the scanner, you're likely not
> doing anything wrong.. but how the network is designed to work.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 3/04/2020 14:23, Darryl Healy wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> Timaru based
>
> Does anyone have any info on a couple of Tiii networks?
>  H2-32.2 (414.31250, 410.66250 and 412.06250),
>  H2-31.6 (414 38750),
>  H2-31.5 (414 42500),
>  H2-31.2 (416.7500) which I am receiving locally in Timaru.
>
> Id anyone has these Tiii sites mapped out could I get more info on them?
>
> Any info on these networks would be great trying to map it out on DSD Plus
> fastlane.
>
> Darryl
>
>
>
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