[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 99, Issue 14

Fri Jan 12 16:06:36 AEDT 2018

No, I appreciate there would be no legal implications if they found you
carrying a scanner onboard, I was just thinking more about the human rights
aspects of it.
I wouldn't be traveling with a scanner anyway.
I'd take my hand-held VHF radio (which transmits and receives) and has the
ability to be programmed from the keypad.
"Sorry ma'am this isn't a scanner, it's my work radio". End of story.

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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 3:21 PM, <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz> wrote:

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> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:29:24 +0000
> From: Brendan Sheehy <Shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
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> This should be the current radio channel coverage in Auckland.
>
> 152.0500 Channel 3 Covers Otahuhu - Paerata, Purewa Tunnel & New Market
> Tunnel
> 152.3500 Channel 4 Covers Britomart Tunnel & New Lynn Trench
> 152.0375 Channel 6 Covers New Market - Westfield Otahuhu - Sylvia Park
> Penrose - Onehunga
> 152.0625 Channel 7 Covers Auckland Station - New Market, Auckland Station
> - Purewa Tunnel - Sylvia Park
> 152.3625 Channel 8 Covers New Market - New Lynn Trench - Waitakere Tunnel
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> Regards
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> Brendan
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> From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:13 AM
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> Subject: [TheList] Railway / Kiwirail / Anything on Tracks
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> Just curious, has the Railway channels / Kiwirail network gone digital .
>
> The Frequency 152.05000 seems to have digital data noise on, but I can
> kinda hear audio in the background.
> I live in Sandringham, and have a Discone up - could it be that I am just
> getting hammered by Sky Tower interference ??
>
> Thanks in advance :)
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> From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com>
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> In my experience the addition of these sorts of clauses is almost cetainly
> related to a particular incident or concern raised by someone specifically.
> So there must be history to this. As for legality, they've been up-front
> about it and reserve the right to eject you from the service, so it's
> likely not illegal to make the stipulation. Being found in breach is only a
> breach of commercial terms, however, and not a crime.
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> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Radio Solutions <
> radio.restorations at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > It would be interesting to know if they actively police the use of
> > scanners on their services.
> > This is the first and only time I've seen a specific reference to people
> > not being allowed to use them almost anywhere.
> > I remember back before the police coms went digital here in Auckland I
> > occasionally got stopped (and friends with scanners did too)
> > by the police and they'd usually ask why I was listening to them - I'd
> > simply reply "to keep you buggers honest!" but they'd never say
> > I wasn't allowed to have it or use it etc or try to seize it.
> > It makes me wonder about the legality of someone like Kiwirail trying to
> > enforce a clause like that.
> > It's not as if the staff onboard the train, or the loco engineer or even
> > Train Control are discussing anything super sensitive or private.
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> From: richard Pringle <uncledingo at live.com>
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> I didnt really see any active policing of it searching bags etc, just was
> suprising to see it on the tickets. Possibly is stated in case something
> goes astray and people panicking? Though i will admit the radio
> chatter/banter was great value.
> Riche
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> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:08:29 +1300
> From: Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com>
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> Here's a challenge for someone.. Kiwirail are obliged to respond to OIA
> requests.. :)
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> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:23 AM, richard Pringle <uncledingo at live.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I recently travelled from greymouth to christchurch with kiwirail. Was
> >> able to listen the whole way with the freqs listed on the national rail
> >> page. You will notice little post on the side of the rail stating 'radio
> >> channel 3' etc and which means need to change accordingly ,some even
> have
> >> the old signs with the actual freqs. I noticed the train staff each had
> >> radios to talk to each other about food/drink/rubbish but didnt bother
> >> finding that freq.
> >> Just be careful as scanners are not permitted on the ticket terms on
> >> conditions surprisingly if anyone going to do the same.
> >> Riche
> >>
> >> Wow. That surprised me so I went digging.
> >
> > "The operation of radio scanners is prohibited on board Great Journeys of
> > New Zealand services by anyone other than our staff."
> >
> > From https://www.greatjourneysofnz.co.nz/assets/20170620-Scenic-
> > Rail-SUMMARY-TERMS-AND-CONDITIONS-OF-TRAVEL.pdf
> >
> > Real item of curiosity now.. I wonder why this added to their T&C...
> >
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> From: Brendan Sheehy <Shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
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> This should be the current radio channel coverage in Auckland.
>
> 152.0500 Channel 3 Covers Otahuhu - Paerata, Purewa Tunnel & New Market
> Tunnel
> 152.3500 Channel 4 Covers Britomart Tunnel & New Lynn Trench
> 152.0375 Channel 6 Covers New Market - Westfield Otahuhu - Sylvia Park
> Penrose - Onehunga
> 152.0625 Channel 7 Covers Auckland Station - New Market, Auckland Station
> - Purewa Tunnel - Sylvia Park
> 152.3625 Channel 8 Covers New Market - New Lynn Trench - Waitakere Tunnel
>
> Regards
>
> Brendan
>
> From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
> Subject: [TheList] Railway / Kiwirail / Anything on Tracks
>
> Just curious, has the Railway channels / Kiwirail network gone digital .
>
> The Frequency 152.05000 seems to have digital data noise on, but I can
> kinda hear audio in the background.
> I live in Sandringham, and have a Discone up - could it be that I am just
> getting hammered by Sky Tower interference ??
>
> Thanks in advance :)
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