[TheList] TheList Digest, Vol 99, Issue 7

Tue Jan 9 19:43:56 AEDT 2018

This was in the news today - see here:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/100421161/rap-song-f-tha-police-broadcast-over-police-radio

If they catch the guy there are various charges he could face including
criminal nuisance, interfering with a communications service and probably
a few others. The max penalty for criminal nuisance is a year in the county
lock-up and/or a fine of $2000 off memory.
As Richard states, radios like the Baofeng and the Wouxun can easily
transmit on the police VHF and UHF channels, and if the dick-wad that's
doing it strikes the repeater input frequency then he could be just about
anywhere and hold them to ransom until RSM can track him down.
Police coms techs probably could do it, but I don't know if they have the
RDF gear like RSM has.
RDF isn't exactly one of their core functions as it is for RSM.
With the ease of getting hold of cheap radios the way you can now, it seems
difficult if not impossible to stop people from getting their hands
on gear that can program up on these frequencies. Heck, the police can't
even stop the tide of illegal weapons from coming into the country
so trying to stop little amateur radios from coming in seems out of the
question.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:00 PM, <thelist-request at radiowiki.org.nz> wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 12:20:41 +0000
> From: Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com>
> To: "thelist at radiowiki.org.nz" <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> Subject: [TheList] Dunedin police
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> Hi all
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> So last few nights I?ve been listening to dun police . Tonight they where
> looking for a officer . Comms said s3 have unse orbheard from i4a they
> haven?t been heard from then I hear him say no I?ll try his cell . Then
> someone says I told u pigs I fucking killed him the sgt says sorry comms no
> reply on his cell nd I hear I told you fuckers he?s dead in my boot . How
> the hell is someone transmitting on the police freq . Obves this guy is not
> a cop . Can the cops hear him as they don?t say nothing nd how can this
> catch this asshole . He also keeps jamming the channel by playing fuck the
> police by ratm over nd over . Is disgusting
>
> Tim
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> From: DogSecurity - Richard <richard at dogsecurity.co.nz>
> To: "thelist at radiowiki.org.nz" <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>
> Subject: Re: [TheList] Dunedin police
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> It'll be another idiot running around with one of those nasty Boafengs.
> Given they're a ham radio, they should be selling those to someone with
> their ham ticket only.  Noone enforces it though so you can bring them in
> yourself.
>
> Unfortunately this means that this becomes a 'scanner' for end users, with
> one major problem - it can transmit.  With no transmit lockout, they type
> in the local UHF police receive freq and transmit back, in effect using it
> as a simplex channel. Handhelds, being 5W, will have a transmit area of
> around 5km with no hills, trees, etc in the way.  So your new friend will
> be within 5km of you.  It's unlikely he's transmitting on the repeater
> input, which means the whole Dunedin district, and comms, would hear it.
>
> For the guy to get in trouble, the police (like any other user) need to
> make a complaint to the RSM inspectors, who will investigate and find him
> by triangulation.  Although I guess Police techs could do it for their
> channels, and get GDB staff to arrest him for some sort of Criminal
> Mischief charge, but it's RSM who should be doing it, as they oversee all
> frequencies, and all interference complaints.
>
> So basically, either S3 heard and ignored, or he never heard because he
> was more than 5km away from this muppet.
>
> The fines can be fairly hefty, some guy in Nelson bought in his own dog
> tracking stuff for hunters in... 2015? which wasn't compliant.  If I
> remember right, he was selling it as well as using for himself.  Anyway,
> they caused interference on forestry channels, someone complained to RSM
> and they warned him.  He chose to ignore the warnings, and then
> infringement notices, so he got charged.  The judge fined him $30k.  Then..
> get this, he got a discount of 20% for an early guilty plea, and for
> previous good character (even though he'd been fined for the same offense
> before!)
> Richard
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> spelling.
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> On 9 January 2018 1:20:41 AM NZDT, Tim Devaney <timdevaneynz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Hi all
> >
> >So last few nights I?ve been listening to dun police . Tonight they
> >where
> >looking for a officer . Comms said s3 have unse orbheard from i4a they
> >haven?t been heard from then I hear him say no I?ll try his cell . Then
> >someone says I told u pigs I fucking killed him the sgt says sorry
> >comms no
> >reply on his cell nd I hear I told you fuckers he?s dead in my boot .
> >How
> >the hell is someone transmitting on the police freq . Obves this guy is
> >not
> >a cop . Can the cops hear him as they don?t say nothing nd how can this
> >catch this asshole . He also keeps jamming the channel by playing fuck
> >the
> >police by ratm over nd over . Is disgusting
> >
> >Tim
> >--
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