[TheList] Pofung UV6 R Transceiver

Tue Dec 11 12:55:12 AEDT 2018

The dicks spoiling it are the business using these radios for business on uhf cb So when rsm get.off thier arses and stop the wrong doers then they can target those that possess them if they can find them, as some never tx on them
Bob 

Bob the BookmanWww.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz

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From: Andrew Brill <abrill0653 at gmail.com> 
Date: 11/12/18  2:29 PM  (GMT+12:00) 
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Subject: Re: [TheList] Pofung UV6 R Transceiver 

"Generally the answer is 'don't be a dick"

Welll put Mark. An accurate and concise summary of the situation. 

All the definitions,  presumptions and offences are purely academic until you get to the stage of defending a charge in court. Gathering sufficient evidence to present and support a charge is time consuming, expensive and a lot of work. Its not something RSM
 would do without good reason. It's not worth their effort, unless of course you do something that puts you into the "dick" category and brings you to their attention. Then an example needs to be made.

Andy

From: TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz> on behalf of Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:53:17 AM

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Subject: Re: [TheList] Pofung UV6 R Transceiver

IANAL, however,
I'd suggest you don't need to go looking for holes in the legislation (note the date on it: 1989. Times have changed).
If your equipment was specifically designed as a transceiver, then I think it's fair that the legislation stands as read.
If you're using something like a Raspberry Pi, which is clearly only really an 'incidental' transmitter, I think the Secretary's judgement would be called into play.
Generally the answer is 'don't be a dick', the legislation is intended to prevent people procuring radios that are a nuisance and not legal for use (think non type-approved gear on PRS, Marine, etc) which may cause interference or result in disruption
 (unreadable transmissions, etc) or perhaps be resold to unwitting consumers unaware of the risks.

It also means that if you steal a police radio (because you want to listen) you can be charged under the Act.

I'm sure RSM are quite aware of all the theoretical capabilities, they have a legal framework to work within and we have a duty to respect the law.  It's not complex IMO.

And I wouldn't be surprised if a revision to the law happens at some point in the next 5-10 years (sooner if they're so inclined), pretty much all laws relating to technology are needing updates, but some higher profile ones have trumps right now (like
 the Privacy Act).

Mark.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 3:28 PM KillerOfShadows <killerofshadows at gmail.com> wrote:

So This would apply to the HackRF, considering that can transmit on any frequency it can receive, if using the right software (this device was in my future shopping list, but maybe I have to go for my Ham license first to cover myself). 

Interestingly; Raspberry Pi’s can transmit over GPIO pin 12 between 150kHz to 750MHz using the PiTx software to about 10cm even so apparently it can cause interference over the spectrum due to square wave harmonics (using a simple wire attena
 it can transmit up to 100 metres) so I wonder how that would be classified? 

Even if the transmit functionality is never used, it seems like they’d be classified as restricted devices if they are capable (this would probably apply to similar computers and micro controllers that can be programmed too?).

I wonder if RSM is even aware that most of these can theoretically transmit out of the box with the right software/code?

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 1:24 PM, Bob the Bookman <bob at booksgiftsdirect.co.nz> wrote:

Guilty before being...........

Bob the Bookman
Www.booksgiftsdirect.co.nz

-------- Original message --------

From: Craig Molloy <phantomdb at gmail.com>

Date: 10/12/18 12:49 PM (GMT+12:00) 

To: thelist at radiowiki.org.nz

Subject: Re: [TheList] Pofung UV6 R Transceiver 

do they have to prove that in court?

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 12:46 Mark Foster <blakjak at gmail.com wrote:

Chinese words aren't exactly ideal for English-language marketing.

In reply to OP also remember that the Radiocommunications Act assumes you've transmitted, even if you havn't.

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 9:03 PM Radio Solutions <radio.restorations at gmail.com> wrote:

Pofung?
Heck, I thought Baofeng was bad.
The chinese need to come up with some better branding.

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