[TheList] Tait Communications has agreement with Team Talk to supply and build its new nationwide digital mobile radio network

Sat Dec 16 10:45:14 AEDT 2017

A good writeup there, fleetlink is always good for a laugh when the 
truckies start talking shit late at night. I know of a company that 
bought some nice ($$$) handhelds only to have them programmed to PRS 
channels...

On 15/12/2017 11:56 p.m., DogSecurity - Richard wrote:
> Slowly. There's still a lot of MCX760/780s and, T2040s in the wild, 
> and therefore still need to be supported by the networks, but the 
> reality is Digital is the way of the future for most customers. There 
> are still things like MCX1200Es... Probably a 25+ year old RT, that 
> needs a DOS laptop to program. DOSBox isn't always your friend. Most 
> Motorola dealers won't support these anymore, because no parts, don't 
> have a DOS laptop etc. So they're slowly getting removed from service, 
> but people have some ancient crap out there, trust me. People are odd 
> too, they'll happily drop $200,000+ on a new 
> truck/trailer/tractor/bulldozer but want to reuse these 20 year old 
> RTs, because $1200 is a bit much for a new one haha. I still haven't 
> worked out the logic with that, but that's another story
>
> Fleetlink and ActionNet (ActionNet isn't as well known, but works the 
> same as Fleetlink) are two old trunking systems by Teamtalk. I believe 
> the gear is based on old Tait mobile RTs acting as a repeater with a 
> controller doing the hard work, and one of the limitations that 
> Teamtalk set is 3site select.. This is their way of doing group 
> calling over Fleetlink/ActionNet.. Basically you dial a group number 
> in your fleet that has 3 sites preselected. All users on your fleet 
> that's logged into those 3 sites (plus the originating site,) hear the 
> group call. However those not logged into that site will miss it.
>
> IE in the waikato, group90 could be made up of San Hill (Cambridge) 
> Maungakawa (North East Huntly) and Ranginui (East of Te Kuiti) to give 
> Waikato area coverage.. A supervisor on say.. Skytower (Auckland..) 
> could do a group call by dialing 90 to his staff which will work 
> fine.. But if his staff did a group call on 90, the supervisor will 
> miss the group call and noone would know he's misses it (short of him 
> not responding)
>
> When Fleetlink and ActionNet was designed, it really had individual 
> calls in mind. 3site select was bought in to reduce the network load. 
> Some sites might have 5 trunking channels, plus the control channel, 
> if you had group calls going over the whole node, you'd potentially 
> quickly fill up those channels on some sites and not others. On the 
> flipside, Digital trunking (DMR Tier3 uses TDMA so a 6 channel analog 
> site, can potentially be changed to a 6 channel digital site - with 
> timeslots now giving 12 'channels') is mostly done by group calls (but 
> private calls are possible) and nowadays people seem to be more 
> interested in Group calls, but want the coverage of one of the 
> Teamtalk networks. For some customers, it's also easier to pay 
> $40/month per subscriber plus buy/lease an RT, than it is to set up 
> their own repeater network and have ongoing maintenance costs etc. 
> When a TT repeater/site goes down, they lose comms, but don't have to 
> fix it. Some customers want complete control over their system, and 
> don't want to wait for a spare repeater channel to be free if they are 
> high voice traffic customer so Teamtalk isn't a suitable option for 
> them. A lot of people are also quite happy paying 150/year to RSM for 
> their own conventional simplex channel because they don't need the 
> geographical coverage. You also get the odd customer who just want to 
> use PRS because they don't want to pay a yearly RSM fee, which is just 
> a health and safety disaster in the making.
>
> Teamtalk was all about trunking, but now they want to get into 
> conventional stuff more than they currently are (they supply single 
> site repeaters, plus own the repeater gear for Auckland Fire UHF 
> network, and St Johns repeater network etc.)
> Richard
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> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and 
> spelling.
>
> On 15 December 2017 8:59:25 PM NZDT, Radio Scanner 
> <rs157950 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     So does that signal the end of the MPT1327 network?
>
>     On 15/12/2017 8:51 p.m., Stephen wrote:
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>>     https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99830471/teamtalk-deal-also-a-boon-for-taits-mobile-radio-research-and-development
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>>     Stephen
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