[TheList] Waikato AOS incident

Nino Bianco nino2678 at slingshot.co.nz
Mon Aug 14 12:42:15 AEST 2017


Yes back to the radio discussion. F11 and 1D are AOS simplex channels eagle
could have been out of range at the time while  enroute to the incident
which explains why they were having com's issues. Also last time I checked.
Eagle has 1 Digital VHF radio with duel heads. 1 UHF Digital radio with
duel heads and one Lowband VHF analog radio.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Brendan Sheehy <shiters_r_us at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Back to radios..... Every officer has a digital capable portable. Some
> vehicles are fitted out with dual installs. Some fitted with only analogue
> some only digital. I believe the eagle is fitted with both however digital
> would be the prefered mode of operation where available. Each AOS command
> van has a digital repeater installed for AOS deployments.
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> *From:* TheList <thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz> on behalf of Dan News <
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> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2017 12:49:49 PM
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> Big brother is out to get us.
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> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Denis Dawson <ddawson at xnet.co.nz> wrote:
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>> Yes but the Government doesn’t think that.  It has to guard against all
>> possibilities.
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>> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Dan
>> News
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 20:21
>> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
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>> Then what would be the point of the list in the first place? We are all
>> responsible adults and know the limits.
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>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Denis Dawson <ddawson at xnet.co.nz> wrote:
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>> There is when you share it to a 3rd party…. Like here.
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>> *From:* TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *DogSecurity
>> - Richard
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 19:17
>> *To:* thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>> *Subject:* Re: [TheList] Waikato AOS incident
>>
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>>
>> Listening and streaming it are two very different things :) nothing
>> illegal about listening to anything on the airwaves
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>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse my brevity, punctuation and
>> spelling.
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>> On 13 August 2017 6:36:41 PM NZST, Craig Molloy <phantomdb at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Not trying to be a party pooper here, but to sounds like you guys are re
>> broadcasting information herd......... Keep safe.
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>> On 13 Aug. 2017 6:02 pm, "DogSecurity - Richard" <
>> richard at dogsecurity.co.nz> wrote:
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>> I believe Eagle (at least one) do have an ESA band radio, although at one
>> point they had two choppers, one black one was marked, wonder if that's
>> still the case - might explain why they weren't using the channel.   I'd
>> say the unit you heard was probably one of the AOS guys before he got
>> geared up (but had his gear with him) could also have been DCC or an
>> Alpha.  I know MOX is an AOS member.
>>
>> I wasn't listening last night so didn't hear all the excitement.
>>
>> On 13/08/17 17:49, Radio Solutions wrote:
>>
>> Spent a few hours listening to all this unfold last night, just after
>> midnight. For those who aren't aware of it, the cops were chasing a late
>> model Commodore for failing to stop after it was seen doing 90 in a 50 k
>> area.
>>
>> They followed it to the outskirts of Morrinsville, where it stopped and
>> the driver got out and pointed what is believed to be an AK-47 at them and
>> started letting off rounds. The photos on the news sites show the squad car
>> windscreen peppered with bullet holes.
>>
>> During all of this they called Eagle in, but were having problems
>> communicating with the helo and at one stage one of the senior cops said to
>> another one that he was going to set up coms with Eagle on 'encrypted
>> channel F11'.
>>
>> It would seem then that Waikato cops have radios (perhaps not issued to
>> everyone) which have digital capability.
>>
>> It is the first time I have ever heard a cop calling 'ten-ten' (and
>> calling it multiple times) on the radio and I hope I never hear it again.
>>
>> It would seem that if Eagle does have an analog radio with all the North
>> Island channels programmed, it obviously wasn't working properly.
>>
>> In a situation like this, reliable coms is imperative. At one stage the
>> Waikato channel locked up (probably a link-line issue) and was unusable for
>> about 5 minutes.
>>
>> I take my hat off to the bravery of these guys who put their lives on the
>> line every day in front of loose units with guns.
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