[TheList] FYI

gklm gklm at slingshot.co.nz
Fri Mar 8 12:41:55 AEDT 2013


Or in Australia, they have not encrypted Fire or Ambo in Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney. They have added these service to the respective Government Radio Network. The system is APCO 25, digital, trunking. Police talk group IDs are encrypted. Ambo and Fire (and State Emergency Service, Coastguard, Country Fire Authority and MANY other users) and in the clear - only police traffic is encrypted. 

No idea of whether 'funds' comes into it in Oz, or whether only police traffic is deemed necessary of encryption.

Of course, don't be misled - you CAN monitor encrypted police traffice - you just can't understand anything! :-)

Cheers,
Mark.
Auckland

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  From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz]On Behalf Of nivick at vodafone.co.nz
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  Reading they are scrapping funds for further expansion of the secure police system, would the funds be available to secure fire and ambos?

  Would not think so.




  On 08/03/2013 09:29, gklm wrote:

    Hi O...

    If Australia is anything to go by, then police will be encrypted (as they are now) but ambulance and fire will not be. If that ends up being the case, then you can monitor ambo and fire still, with a digital-, trunking-capable scanner.

    Mark.
    Auckland.

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      From: TheList [mailto:thelist-bounces at radiowiki.org.nz]On Behalf Of Oliver
      Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 20:24
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      Hmmm,

      And will Fire and Ambo bother with the expense of encryption? Would seem like a waste of $ to me.

      O 
      From: Tristin Davis
      Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:16 PM
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      Beat me to it ;)
       
      I believe that means no money to continue the rollout and although Fire and Ambo in the areas were Police are already digital will probably go Digital too it probably means the rest of NZ will not.
       

       


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      Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:14:04 +1300
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      Interesting stuff.......


      Steve Ausin




      Hi,

      A new news release is available for you to view on the Police website:

      Title: Aggregated model for Whole of Government Radio Network (WGRN)

      An aggregated service model is the agreed way forward for the Whole of Government Radio Network (WGRN).

      "Approved by Government in December last year, the model will see a mix of both digital and analogue radio networks for use by public protection and disaster relief agencies," says Police Deputy Commissioner Resource Management, Viv Rickard.

      A governance board will be established to drive efficiency, enhance interoperability, and review and coordinate future investment in radio communications.

      "The governance board will work with future adopting agencies to integrate them into the Whole of Government approach under the aggregated service model," says Mr Rickard.

      The decision will see Police continue to operate on its digital radio network in the three metropolitan areas of Auckland, Wellington and Canterbury, while maintaining its analogue network throughout the rest of New Zealand.

      It is envisaged that by 2014/15 the Fire Service will complete its transition to the Police digital network in the three metro areas.

      The WGRN business case recommended Ambulance services also move to the Police digital radio network. The governance board will work with Ambulance services to further this recommendation.

      "Having Police, Fire and the Ambulance services on the same radio network in the three main centres would mean a significant proportion of the population will be covered under a modern digital Land Mobile Radio network. This maximises the use of existing assets and provides risk mitigation in the event of a mass casualty or major disaster relief incident,” says Mr Rickard.

      Other interested agencies will come on board to the WGRN as it suits their operational and budgetary requirements - a process that will be managed and overseen by the governance board.

      Mr Rickard says Police led an inter-agency WGRN Steering Group which determined the aggregated service model best met the needs of agencies; was financially viable; made the most of existing radio network infrastructure and left room for agencies to further explore and consider new and emerging communications technologies.

      ENDS

      Contact - Rob Lee, Police Public Affairs, (04) 470 7348.


      Please view the full news release online at:

      http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/34471.html

      Thanks,

      New Zealand Police

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