[TheList] NZ Police Network may not be that secure...

Sun Aug 14 12:17:32 AEST 2011

LOL...

I understand the encryption system in this article is the same as the 
much touted NZ Police system.

<http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20090434-281/security-flaw-found-in-feds-digital-radios/>

Fortunately it is all software upgradable... It will no doubt be 
upgraded to make it secure again.

Neill.

On 3/08/2011 7:08 p.m., Steve Austin wrote:
> I forgot to state that this is happening in Christchurch........Other 
> areas not affected....Yet......But tests are happening.
> The biggest drawback from P25 is the hungry for power 
> repeaters.....Constant 5 amp draw. Not good for remote sites.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Steve Austin <nzscanners at gmail.com 
> <mailto:nzscanners at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Maybe some here do not understand P25 and the systems involved.
>     Ambulance are sharing the Police network in a testing
>     phase.......They are on a node of the P25 system.....No problem
>     plenty of space...
>     Its also easier to put a ready to go radio onto the p25
>     system...Its just unfortunate that the test radios happen to be
>     AES/DES 256bit encrypted radios.
>
>
>     Steve
>
>
>     On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Oliver <nzoliver at hotmail.com
>     <mailto:nzoliver at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         They ARE trialling P25 encrypted. I know this for a fact. You
>         can hear some of the ambos on analogue as not all of them have
>         the new radios. The amount of ambo traffic on the analogue is
>         way down if you have been a long time listener.........
>
>
>
>         --------------------------------------------------
>         From: "Neill Ellis" <tgsnoopy at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tgsnoopy at gmail.com>>
>         Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:17 PM
>         To: "Grant Carroll" <grant.carroll at xtra.co.nz
>         <mailto:grant.carroll at xtra.co.nz>>; <thelist at radiowiki.org.nz
>         <mailto:thelist at radiowiki.org.nz>>
>         Subject: Re: [TheList] Christchurch Ambulance now digital
>
>
>             Hi Grunter,
>
>             I think you might be on to something. I'm pretty sure the
>             media would have let us know if Ambo's were trialling or
>             had gone secure digital.
>
>             Regards,
>
>             Neill.
>
>
>             On 3/08/2011 11:50 a.m., Grant Carroll wrote:
>
>                 Hello,
>                 I am still listening to ambos on the same frequencies
>                 in the ESB band they have been on for ages. This is on
>                 an analogue scanner and my digital scanner with no
>                 "P25" coming up to suggest the transmissions are
>                 digital and obviously if I can hear them on an
>                 analogue scanner they aren't. Am I missing something
>                 here? Are they being simulcast on analogue and new
>                 digital frequencies for now or is their going digital
>                 just a vicious rumour?
>                 Cheers guys.
>                 Grunter1.
>
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